Christian Biesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> Also, according to your're explanation, if we list groups from our ISP,
>> then these very same groups should appear. They don't ... Why not? It's
>> "usenet" isn't it?

Probably your ISP doesn't carry the netscape.* groups.  I'm sure
they would if someone complained about it.  This is the question
of the netscape.* Usenet name space, and who gets to control it.
If your ISP accepts netscape.* groups and accepts newgroup commands
from Netscape then it works like any other part of 'Usenet'.

> If you are talking about netscape.public.mozilla.* when you say "the 
> very same groups", I can confirm that my newsserver (news.cis.dfn.de) 
> does have them.
> My ISP's newsserver (news.chello.at) does also have them, I just noticed.

Yup, and your message passed through the following machines on
the way to me (reverse order):

news.net.uni-c.dk!howland.erols.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!212.186.200
.128!not-for-mail

Note that netscape.com is not there, so I would have got it even
if netscape.com had been off then net.

Works with the same technology as the rest of Usenet, even if
it's not part of Usenet according to some big7-plus-alt
definition of Usenet.

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