On 03/10/2002 5:23 PM, Netscape Basher wrote: > Jay Garcia typed: >> On 03/09/2002 6:06 PM, Netscape Basher wrote: >> >> >>>And then they will claim only technical information is supposed to be >>>posted there. Which is fair because on those groups, Netscape does >>>provide the bandwidth. >>> >>>Netscape has nothing to do with running this newsgroup. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Again, you knoweth not of the FACTS !!!!!!! >> >> This server is a PRIVATE server located in Mountain View Ca. and is >> owned by Netscape and administrated by a Netscape manager (Markus). >> Things may have changed since I last spoke with Markus but that's it as >> far as I know for now. > > False. All the bandwith used by me in this newsgroup is from Road > Runner- Columbia,SC . You just happen to be using the secnews.netscape > to access this group, but you can access through 100's of newsgroup > servers, even google. If you would learn to read headers, you would > figure this out. > > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=netscape.public.mozilla.general > > If secnews.netscape stopped carrying this group, only those who read it > through secnews.netscape would be affected while everyone else would > continue to receive this group. If you read the headers from me, you > will not see any reference to a netscape *news server* at all. Jay this > is about the fourth for fifth dishonest statement you have made. I am > frankly getting sick and tired of it and it's people like you that > ensure Netscape/Mozilla will continue to fail by giving out false > information. > > You know nothing about how usenet works. Stick to something you know a > little bit about, like Mozilla. > >> >> I suggest you read up on how news server software works. By way of >> preferences in the software, the sysnewsadmin can choose to accept/post >> "public/usenet" feed or not. The Secure News Server (secnews) is hosted >> on this box as well and does NOT accept usenet feed. Over-simplified >> explanation but will do for the moment. > > Yup and if the sys newsadmin of secure news server stopped the group, it > will would still be carried by 100's of others newsservers. > > To say the bandwith from this group is from Netscape is totally false > unless you are accessing only from the Secure News Server from Netscape. > > >> >> Please Kyle, get your facts in order. Bashing Netscape/Mozilla is one >> thing and is perfectly acceptable under certain conditions such as >> appending your "bashing" with useful feedback, suggestions, bug reports, >> feature enhancement requests, knowledgeable discussion, etc ......... > > you have already proven you know nothing about usenet. Your statement > that Netscape supplies all the bandwith for this group is totally false. > Ask any newsgroup admin this. > > Just like your dishonest statement to that user who wanted to know how > to respond on the top of a reply and your answer was not to show them > how but dictate they should never do it. It's an option on Netscape. > > It is your job if you are claiming to help people to answer the > question, not imply your will on people. It seems you agenda goes much > further than that. > > -- > Kyle >
Geeze, you're still not understanding the facts, Kyle. Where in my statement/reply did I say ANYthing about supplying or using bandwidth ?? My statement/reply was in reference to the physical location of the server that hosts these groups. It's in Mountain View California and this SERVER feeds usenet. Again, learn the facts especically before you level personal attacks which by the way I don't appreciate but rather considering the source doesn't make a hill of beans one way or the other. Also, when I access THIS group/server, I'm on port 119 not 563 (secure). The NEWS.MOZILLA.ORG group is not on port 563 (secure). Maybe you don't understand just exactly what a "secure" or "non-secure" server is. Are you under the mistaken impression that the "physical" server is "secure" or "non-secure" ??? Do you realize that both secure and non-secure sofware is run on the SAME physical server ???? Have you ever accessed a web site via HTTP and HTTPS ??? One is secure (SSL) and the other isn't but they both run on the same physical server .... Facts Kyle, FACTS !! Learn 'em well. You're posting among big guns here with only a cap pistol. Either contribute something useful or leave. If you really want to learn, we'll teach you. Also, to clarify your allegation that I was not honest in my reply about the top-posting, I emailed the poster about it and he was not offended and took my reply in jest, just as it was meant. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion Novell MCNE-5/CNI-Networking Technologies-OSI UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org
