On 11/27/00 9:40 AM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Ben Bucksch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I will put this as succinctly as possible. Without LDAP, Netscape and
>> Mozilla both have *no* chance, zero, none, nada, of being anything but an
> 
> We all know that. This is the type of nagging I was referring to in my
> other post. If you want to do something about LDAP, go to
> <http://www.beonex.com/dev>. Complaining won't make a difference, other
> than annoying us.

Well, since I admittedly can't code my way out of a sheet of toilet paper in
C or C++, here's what I *can* do...I've got quite a nice LDAP setup, so if
you need someone with the discipline to not only test on 5 platforms, (MacOS
9.X, MacOSX, Windows 2K/98/Me, Solaris, and Irix), but provide annoyingly
detailed bug reports, then I am at your disposal. If you need someone to
beat the hell out of the LDAP code, I'm here for you.

But don't bitch at me that if I can't hand beonex a check or a coder, that
I'm annoying you. Guess what all us corporate types who are complaining are
called? 

Customers

You know, the people who give you market share, or take it away. And guess
what, some of us are too busy running networks, spending time with our
families to learn C++ so that we can code at your level. That's not our
specialty, it's not our way.

But we are willing to help out in the ways that we can. The question is, are
you wanting to work with us?

Damn straight we're annoying now. When a few million users delete all traces
of Netscape from their corporate and higher ed desktops, that's gonna be
REALLY annoying. So again, I'll do what I can, just ask.

As a matter of fact, you work with me, and NS/Moz/Beonex comes out with a
client that is a good corporate fit, then that will be doubly cool for me. I
won't have to dump NS, and I get to write a *good* review of it.

john

-- 
"It is not the critic who counts, not the one who points out how the strong
man stumbled or how the doer of deeds might have done them better. The
credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred
with sweat and dust and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes
short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions,
and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, if he wins, knows the triumph of
high achievement; and who, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly,
so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know
neither victory nor defeat."
- "The Man in the Arena"


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