bhuvan wrote:
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Matthew Thomas wrote:

bhuvan wrote:

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messages for multiple accounts. A checkbox in each (POP and IMAP)
server panel with pref  "Log onto this account at startup of mail"
...
(66460 ), having a checkbox on the AccountCentral page that says "Next
time, take me to the Inbox directly" or something similar would help
...


This seems like a gradual process of repeatedly adding features, each
one designed to patch up the problems caused by the previous one. I
wasn't here at the time, but I would guess this is the same process by
which the UI of the Search function and the Forms Manager in Navigator
got into the embarrassing states they are in today.

You are gambling that each new addition will improve usability, but
since you are adding complexity, you are gambling at worse and worse
odds each time.

Problem:
    Some people are confused when they first open the mail window, the
    account is selected in the folder pane, and nothing is displayed in
    the thread or message panes.
Implemented solution:
    Design a high-falutin' `Account Central' page, which duplicates
    functions in the menus and toolbar -- with the inevitable result
    that some users will be permanently slowed by forever thinking that
    they *have* to come here to access those functions. (That wouldn't
    be bad in itself, were it not for the fact that going to Account
    Central to do these things is vastly slower than accessing them by
    any of the other methods.)

You also have to remember that Account Central can help lot of people  who are sophisticated 
oops!! I meant....*who are not sophisticated*
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">enough to browse through menus and use toolbars  effectively. So, effectively we are improving the usability from their  perspective. Those who can use menus effectively would never conclude  that the Account Central is the only way. They will select the most  appropriate route for them to access the various features. Usability  studies suggest that people are having trouble finding certain features  and performing certain actions. Like all other features, Account Central  will also go through a round usability studies and will be modified  based on the feedback we receive.


Alternative solution:
    Select the Inbox, rather than the account, when the mail window is
    first opened. In the rare event that the user does choose the
    account level, show a simple summary of the folders/groups in that
    account, with the number of read and unread messages in each.

I think providing a way to do various account related actions is better than just displaying folder info (which appears on the status bar as well as the folder pane itself). At startup, we are driving towards the solution to pick Inbox...


Problem:
    Some people like their mail to be checked automatically when they
    open a mail window. Other people don't.
Implemented solution:
    Have a per-account pref for whether or not an account is checked at
    startup. To completely remove all possibility of the user
    understanding this behavior, have different defaults for this pref
    with different types of account.

Having different set of  defaults is finalized
*defaults is not finalized*

missed all negations today....:-(

[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> yet. If we have to go with different defaults, I think,
it will be because that that particular default value is best suited for the usage patterns and expectations of user with those account types.

bhuvan


Alternative solution:
    If the user is in online mode when they open their mail window, then
    check their mail in all their accounts. If they're in offline mode,
    then don't. (As I said before, online/offline mode should be
    persistent between invocations of an application, but should not be
    shared across Mozilla applications.) Provide keyboard shortcuts for
    checking mail in all accounts (Ctrl+Shift+T) or just the selected
    folder (or Inbox of the selected account) (Ctrl+T).



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