And it came to pass that Ben Bucksch wrote:

>Matthew Thomas wrote:
>
>> I apologize for disagreeing.
>
>Forgiven ;-P
>
>> Let's say you have a folder on your hard drive which
>> contains only subfolders. (Compare: a mail account which
>> contains mail folders.) What does Windows Explorer do, when
>> you select this top-level folder? It shows the folders in
>> the right pane. As it should. 
>
>IIRC, it either always or never shows the folders in the
>right pane. 
>
>> What would happen if Windows Explorer was designed by
>> Mozilla Mail/News people?
>
>It would be dog-slow, because I'd use the Mozilla RDF
>tree-widget? ;-P 
>
>> Well, in right pane you'd probably have links to `Create a
>> new folder', `Create a new file', `Go to the parent
>> folder', `Change my Explorer preferences', etc, duplicating
>> buttons in the toolbar. Just as useless as Account Central
>> in Mozilla. 
>
>Note that the AccountCentral pretty much duplicates the OE
>startpage. 
>

Which is what I despise MOST about the @$%@$#$!! account 
central.

If I want OE 'features', I'll use OE. Duh!

>> If offline mode is well-implemented, then using IMAP
>> offline makes just as much sense as using POP offline.
>
>Depends on what you mean with "sense". IMAP offline works
>with a *replication*, POP offline with the original msg
>store. 
>
>>> No, you cannot trust the offline/online state.
>> 
>> Then why do we have it at all?
>
>I don't know. For notebook users?

For our european cousins who pay by the minute for their 
internet connection *in addition* to the phone time.  In that 
situation, you need to be able to everything offline, and then 
do a quick synchronization session to send and recieve 
mail/newsmessages in as little time as possible.

>
>>> - You have no way to reliably figue out, if a connection
>>> to the Internet exists. The user has to set the state
>>> manually. - I left Mailnews while I was online. I left it
>>> in online mode. Later, when I am offline, I start
>>> Mailnews. online mode persisted, so Mailnews tries to get
>>> mail. Error. ...
>> 
>> 
>> Internet Explorer is smart enough to work out that you are
>> offline, and ask you if you want to go online.
>
>No, it can't. No way. (IIRC, I explained why on .ui a few
>days ago.) 
>
>I guess, it works, if
>- the users uses the Windows DUL or
>- told MSIE that he is connected to the Internet all the time
>but that are special cases.
>
>> Why can't Mozilla do this?
>
>Because MSIE can't do it either.

Maybe MSIE can't, but Communicator can.  Natt is absolutely 
right about this.


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