On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:49:00 -0500 Michael Kaply 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As far as the hangs, crashes, etc. go, we very seldom see reproduction
> scenarios for these so we can't reproduce them.
>
> Bugs like "Warpzilla hangs" and "warpzilla crashes" are not very useful.
>
> There are tons of these that are machine specific, and with OS/2 having
> no useful tools for doing stack traces when you crash and things like
> that, we don't have much to look at.

When my system creates a popuplog.os2 entry, it also creates a
a pdump.000 (or suchlike) file.  The PMDF facility can be used
to extract *some* information (maybe even a stack dump) from
this file.  (I have 'DUMPPROCESS=E' in my config.sys.)

It would help users if the Mozilla developers would take time out
to create a short "cookbook" list, telling users what information
should be gathered (and telling *how* to do that) from a "crash",
so that a report of that "crash" is made as valuable as possible.

mikus


p.s.  I really dislike formal reporting mechanisms like Bugzilla.
      In my opinion, they rerely result in a "fix" to a problem.
      An example:  In earlier days of OS/2, I found an instance
      of a clearly SOFTWARE bug.  I submitted a problem report.
      IBM closed that report, with the notation:  "This problem
      was reported on an EISA system.  We do not have any EISA
      system on which to reproduce it."  Another example:  From
      the first beta of Netscape 4.xx on, my browser window was
      YELLOW.  I submitted a problem report, even identifying the
      incorrect color_scheme_label from which the value was being
      taken.  Result -- I'm still living with a yellow window.


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