| Felix Miata wrote:
 
| > What are they for except to report on their behavior, confirm fixes,
| > find bugs? I don't remember any better behavior from milestones.
 
| They are mainly to be used to verify individual fixes so we can ensure
| they are fixed before a milestone.

So what we do post does to some extent provide needed information? Or 
doesn't it?
 
| Honestly, unless any of you guys are running Windows, a lot of the
| problem reports you give us are not very useful.

Which means some of them are very useful? Some are somewhat useful? We
are all totally wasting our time posting?

| Our main goal is to make the OS/2 browser runb like the Windows browser.
| So the best thing anyone can do is run Windows and OS/2, run the same
| build on both, and say "this is different between Windows and OS/2."

I already spend too much time at a PC without using windoze. I'd have 
to be on someone's payroll first. Besides, after many years using 
OS/2, windoze is just to painful. ;-)  If many people doing identical 
browsings, emailings, Usenetting on multiple PC's simultaneously is  
what is really needed, it's no wonder the trek to 1.0 is taking so 
long.
 
| As far as the hangs, crashes, etc. go, we very seldom see reproduction
| scenarios for these so we can't reproduce them.
 
| Bugs like "Warpzilla hangs" and "warpzilla crashes" are not very useful.
 
| There are tons of these that are machine specific, and with OS/2 having
| no useful tools for doing stack traces when you crash and things like
| that, we don't have much to look at.
 
| When you put on top of that the fact that most people are running FixPak
| 15 (which incidentally is NOT the most current FixPak and hence NOT what
| we test on), as well as private PMMERGE fixes, test kernels, tons of WPS
| enhancers, etc., there is no way to know what is causing any particular
| problem.

So you you want us to include fixlevel, kernel version, chipset & CPU 
in each post, and preferably use the most recent OS fixlevel without 
interim fixes or not post at all?
 
| What we need is other people building and debugging the browser. That's
| how the other builds are so successful. The Warpzilla project has tons
| of users/testers but very few developers.
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