> I'm not saying Mozilla isn't good, it is, and its getting better as the days
> drag into weeks drag into months drag into years.  Three years this summer
> which in itself seemingly amazes me - 3 years for a browser

I'll make the same point I always make when people see this - go and
inhale the standards for HTML 4, CSS 1 and 2, DOM, RDF, IMAP, POP, SMTP,
XML, etc. etc. and then go and look at the millions of horrible HTML pages
on the Web that Mozilla is also supposed to render, and then come back and
tell us again how it should have been finished ages ago.

> won't get trashed in the media about, I don't see much of a future.  Simple
> features that are now in Netscape 4.x like roaming profiles are assigned to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and marked with "help wanted."  

Roaming profiles is not a "simple feature" at all. If it's an issue for
you or your company, Beonex are putting together a pool to add LDAP
support, which (I believe) is one requirement.

Or are you saying that you should define the priorities for developers
that other people pay?

> Yes its an open source
> project, but things like this isn't what was intentioned when it was
> released for the public to hack on.  

Ah, yes. It should be released with all the features totally complete for
the public to hack on.

> Instead, old useful features are left out, deemed not necessary, the public
> is ignored 

The public should not be ignored by those presenting Mozilla technologies
to the public. mozilla.org is not one of those entities. People are
brusque in newsgroups with "the public" because the newsgroups are a tool
for getting work done.

> instead, which was merely a matter of semantics.  The goal is the browser,
> has been since the source code was released, the side effect was the
> underlying platformdeveloped after which is extendable.  

I'm sure there are many who would argue with that assertion. And if you
did design it that way round, you'd get a load of bad design and cruft.

> works.  There also seems to be a general lack of pride to produce something
> that they can be proud, or even want the public to use.  Shouldn't Mozilla
> contributors be doing the best work they can, touting its capabilities, and
> working towards a solid release that, 

Are you implying that's not what they are doing? Of course, silly me, all
these engineers do all day is fire Nerf guns at each other.

Gerv

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