>>>>> "M" == Mathew Hendry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    >> From: Stapp, Acy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
    >> 
    >> Has this stabilized?

    M> Hasn't changed for at least a few days. ;)

Wait a moment !
I don't think so....

>>>>> "S" == Segher Boessenkool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    >> hmm, I'm not so sure about this.  The noise measure used in
    >> LAME is based *not* on the error in the energy
    >> 
    >> fabs(i^8/3 - x^2)
    >> 
    >> but instead on the energy of the error:
    >> 
    >> ( i^4/3 -x ) ^2
    >> 
    >> Since LAME picks scalefactors to try to minimize the second
    >> quantity, I think we should use a quantization consistant with
    >> this error measure?

    S> Ahah. I think the scalefactor picking should be consistent with
    S> the first formula instead :-)

    S> But seriously, what the ear hears is energy, not amplitude; so
    S> the second formula is not an accurate description of the
    S> audible error.

I think this is right, Segher.

with my poor listening test, I think we should take noise calculation
    >> fabs(i^8/3 - x^2)
instead of
    >> ( i^4/3 -x ) ^2
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