Yep it's true that a hybrid has batteries and motors and they weigh more. 
Busses do a lot of breaking though and that's a lot of wasted energy. 
Recapturing it really can make up for the difference in weight, and then become 
more efficient in the end. 

Useing technology like when braking or coasting to a stop, the hybrid uses its 
electric motor as a generator to produce electricity, which is then stored in 
its battery pack, as opposed to transforming that energy to heat that is then 
dissipated into the air as a conventional bus does. They also can have better 
transmissions, like locomotives, which by the way are almost always hybrid 
electric diesels for that reason.

 That's not to say a hybrid is an end all to pollution, and future engine 
technology may some day replace it. But I'm happy to hear that Metro Transit is 
doing something to help make the city more breathable with the technology we 
can currently buy.  

Tom Holtzleiter
King Field



From:                   Dyna Sluyter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:                [Mpls] Re: Busses and Pollution- Has Metro Transit 
found a perpetual
        motion machine?
Date sent:              Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:11:08 -0600

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        Hmm... has a small diesel engine, batteries, and electric 
motors, and uses less fuel and pollutes less than a diesel bus? Has 
Metro Transit found a loophole in the basic laws of physics? I think 
not- The power ultimately has to come from the diesel engine, whether 
you demand a constant 100 horses from it and store said power in 
batteries for peak demands or intermittently ask for 200 to 300 
horsepower. In fact the current standard Metro Transit bus's engine 
is of about the optimum size for efficiency, at about 1.7-2.0 liters 
per cylinder. Smaller (car and light truck) and larger (locomotive) 
engines are usually less efficient.

        Perhaps Metro Transit needs to drug test some of it's 
administrators as well as the drivers...

        peace,
                Dyna Sluyter from Hawthorne
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