Just a correction, there are two or more business on 23rd and 24th at 38th.
This stretch from 22nd to 26th (even to 28th or really from Cedar to 28th),
really has the potential to become a pretty great "neighborhood downtown" if
we'd pay attention to it. There are several parcels of vacant land, some
buildings that could be renovated, and a great core group of businesses.
Beyond that there is a great commercial node at Minnehaha and 38th and at
least one between the two areas.
Russ Peterson
Ward 9
Standish
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Subject: RE: [Mpls] re: 38th St ramps
38th Street has 2 or more businesses on virtually every major corner.
4th Ave, Chicago, Bloomington, Cedar, 28th, 34th. Things peter out east
of Hiawatha. In addition to the businesses at the major corners there
are many other midway, but scattered. By the way, some of the best ribs
in town come from Ted Cook's 19th Hole over toward the Hiawatha end.
Ted, himself, passed away some years ago, but another party is continuing
the tradition. Besides the ribs don't forget the JoJo's
>Tim Bonham observes:
>
>>This broke down somehow around 40th St, which should have been a
>>"commercial" street based on this pattern. Instead both 38th and 42nd
>>became "semi-commercial", with an uncomfortable mix of commercial
>>intersections and residential housing.
>
>One minor demurral (from a 42nd street resident): 38th is a heck of a lot
>more commercial on both sides of the highway than 42nd. For example, at
>Nicollet, 38th has businesses on all four corners, 42nd on one (Curran's,
>with the best dessert deal in town: the $7.49 homemade pie. That's for the
>whole thing. Yum!). At Grand, 38th has businesses on all four corners, 42nd
>street one. In fact, 42nd is officially considered a residential street
west
>of Nicollet, while 38th is a "community corridor," the intermediate step
>before Lake-type places.
>
>The story is the same many blocks east of the highway, at least as far as
>Park/Portland...though I'm not intimately familiar with how 38th and 42nd
>compare at, say, Hiawatha.
>
>>Maybe we should take this as an opportunity to "fix" this -- put the ramps
>>onto 40th St, rezone it to allow commercial development, rezone 38th &
42nd
>>to discourage commercial use (only grandfathering in the existing ones),
>>reroute buses to 40th St, etc.
>
>Ironically, 40th used to be a bus route and is built to withstand buses
>(unlike 42nd west of the highway). However, it is purely residential
between
>Nicollet and Lyndale and has much less commercial development than at 38th.
>I think altering the use pattern would be extreme.
>
>Of course, it also was 40 years ago by putting the ramps at 35th/36th (by
>the way, anyone know why?). However, in four decades 36th has become more
>commercial and 38th has become less (especially west of the highway). I'm
>not sure how to split this baby - half the ramps at 36th and half at 38th
>has been studied -- but 40th is too good to be true.
>
>David Brauer
>President, King Field neighborhood association
>King Field - ward 10
>
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