Pam, I only have ancient history, back in my Twin Cities Reader
reporting days.

Then - and I believe, now - plastic was uneconomical to recycle. The
city couldn't sell it for what it cost to collect, unlike other
materials. Plastic has all kind of gnarly factors that prevent it from
being a good collectable - lightweight (lotsa storage, little recyclable
material) and most plastic stuff is a blend of material that's hard to
remanufacture into pure resin (thus the park benches, etc. that you see
out there. There may be growing demand for those, but the supply is also
growing, probably faster).

As I recall, even if you're ok with subsidizing collection/recycling
because a) picking up and disposing of trash costs money, too and b) it
gets stuff out of landfills, the subsidy with plastic was quite high.
I'm pretty sure that's why the city dropped some plastic materials from
its collection plan. It would be pretty tough to add a heavily
subsidized good during a budget crisis, I think.

Now I am reaching into gray matter that is really cobwebby, but I think
the big push to recycle plastic came during the time of Minneapolis's
infamous "plastic ban" movement when plastic grocery bags and stryrofoam
containers first flooded the local market.

The ban - a horror to merchants, for it would mean certain ubiquitous
packaging would be blocked at the city borders - was derailed by the
push to recycle. The problem, of course, was that the taxpayers then
heavily subsidized the plastic-pushers with uneconomical recycling.

I'll defer to more educated environmentalists about whether such future
recycling subsidy makes sense economically or environmentally. I do
think the "recycling" push was a politician's dodge to avoid an
up-or-down decision to ban or not ban, and otherwise let plastic be
judged by the same economics with judge other possible recyclables.

As for disposal, I have read that plastics are among the safest things
you can throw in a landfill (they're virtually inert and don't decay),
but of course that has other problems. Burning has all kinds of obvious
problems, though again, I'll let the garbage burner combatants have that
out.

I suspect this will engender as many strong feelings as the police
issue. I hope we focus on Minneapolis policy (though I realize the
effects go far beyond our borders). And perhaps some of the underlying
economics - and the underlying sentiment for a ban - have changed in a
decade.

By the way, back when I had a morning radio show I suggested someone
make a "home smelter" so we could mold our excess plastic sort of like
those toys where you squirt goo into a mold and bake a toy creature. 

David Brauer
King Field - Ward 10



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> I need a change of subject from the police--
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