I agree, Robert--I know so many others do, too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Many Crows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dean Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Baseball
> I don't think what happened friday can be considered as baseball getting their > house in order, we'll still be threatened with relocation unless we build a > stadium. Is anyone aware of our financial house in Minneapolis and the state in > general. We can't seem to do the basics, (hello, Mayor Rybak, remember basic > services.) we can't seem to fund a REAL civilian review board, we can't seem to > fund other departments, we can't seem to protect our water and air, we can't > seem to keep our politicians from staying above board, we can't seem to > reorganize the city so that it works for everyone, we can't seem to get local > government and specifically the park board to listen to neighborhoods and yet a > stadium that will not serve all of us is affordable. Where are the > priorities?????? We voted here in Mpls, we said something a couple of years ago > and if it's not what "we" what to hear we ignore it. But the shame is we will > continue to waste time on this issue. There are far more pressing things at the > table. Clearly the last election mandated that. > > I think most people would throw in "some" money for a stadium, but that wasn't > good enough for the twins. They wanted us to foot the entire bill. Now, we do > still live in a capitalist society, right? If baseball is such a wonderful > "product" they won't have any problem finding the money, right? We change the > rules to serve us when we want, and that is bullshit! > But, hey, at least we can debate this unlike other things in our > society.....this is such a wasteful distraction from the real problems. If > throwing money at social ills is not the solution, then it's not the solution > in this case either. > > Robert Yorga > St. Anthony West > > Koyaanisqatsi (Hopi) 1.Crazy Life. 2.Life in Turmoil. 3. Life out of Balance. > 4. Life Disintegrating. 5. A State of Life that calls for Another Way of Living. > > > > > Dean Carlson wrote: > > > Jeez Loueez, the ink isn't even dry on this sucker and the no-stadium > > contingent is already out, fangs bared. > > > > Many on this list said no new stadium until baseball got it's economics in > > order. Well they just did that. We don't have to worry about the threat of > > contraction anymore either. I know most on this list don't want to accept > > it but a majority of the public want a new stadium and are willing to have > > some (small) amount of public assistance included to do it. Let's just get > > it done. > > > > Dean Carlson > > East Harriet, Ward 10 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Velez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:11 PM > > Subject: [Mpls] Baseball > > > > > According to preliminary reports (wcco.com), part of the 11th hour deal > > struck > > > to prevent a baseball work stoppage is that contraction of teams will not > > be > > > reconsidered until 2006. > > > > > > Note to elected officials: THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE "REWARD" our > > owner-in- > > > waiting, Carl, with a new stadium. > > > > > > Note to citizens: We can expect at least 4 more years of our elected > > officials > > > coming back each year with some new stadium deal. The solution: THROW OUT > > THE > > > INCUMBENTS! I can state that I will be a solid "NO" vote on a stadium > > proposal > > > as long as the education funding issues and other budgetary > > problems/issues > > > loom. I say let Carl come up with a proposal and get the public behind > > it; why > > > should our elected officials be on the hook for convincining the public > > that we > > > need a new stadium? > > > > > > Bob Velez > > > Shingle Creek > > > Ward 4-1 > > > > > > -- > > > Citizen Bob Velez > > > Green Party endorsed candidate for Hennepin County Commissioner, District > > 1 > > > AFSCME (Local 34) ENDORSED > > > http://www.webspawner.com/users/citizenbobvelez/ > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy > > > Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > > > http://e-democracy.org/mpls > > > > _______________________________________ > > Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy > > Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > > http://e-democracy.org/mpls > > _______________________________________ > Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy > Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > http://e-democracy.org/mpls _______________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
