Yes, the time when people are actually driving by and want to stop and get coffee on the way to work, pick up stuff on the way home. Most people who work actually do those things on their way to work and on the way home. Duh!!
Lisa McDonald
East Harriet
----- Original Message -----From: WizardMarksSent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:35 PMTo: forum issuesSubject: Re: [Mpls] 35W Access Project-Urban LegendActually, the project said it would take parking off one side of 38th
street from 7-9am and the other side from 4-6pm. Standard rush hour
parking stuff.
WizardMarks, Central
Lisa McDonald wrote:
> The problem with the 35-Access project is that it will take all the
> on-street parking off of 38th street. This will be the death knell for
> many of these small businesses including Quality Coaches. When we
> talked about dedicated bus lanes on Hennepin Avenue the businesses
> came out in full force against removing on-street parking. All the
> access project does is move traffic. It doesn't improve small business
> access.
>
>
>
> Lisa McDonald
>
> East harriet
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: David Brauer
>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:04 AM
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Subject: Re: [Mpls] 35W Access Project-Urban Legend
>
>
>
> While I agree with Ken that ramps at 38th won't make the street more
> economically viable, he asks:
>
> > the Urban Legend I was referring to is the one the
> > Access Project supporters are spreading that Lake Street and the
> > intersecton of 38th and Nicollet Avenue are blighted business
> districts
> > with failed and "struggling" businesses.
> >
> > I'm still waiting for evidence that this is so. What are the
> addresses of
> > the empty stores at 38th and Nicollet?
>
> There are a few.
>
> On the northeast corner, 3 storefronts on either side of Finer
> Meats are
> vacant (2 of a former Latino market, not Marissa's, and a former
> bakery).
>
> On the northwest corner, the former Domino's Pizza storefront remains
> vacant, and when I walked by Midtown Chicken Shack on Saturday
> afternoon, it
> was closed - despite hours-of-operation sign saying it should be open.
>
> On the southeast corner, it appears that the former exterminator
> office on
> the corner is vacant, but he is moving around the corner to
> between Nicollet
> and 1st on 38th. The owner of the building is marketing the corner
> space as
> a coffee shop. A dentist at 38th & 1st is never open, but he is
> rehabbing
> his exterior with help from the neighborhood association.
>
> The southwest corner sometime APPEARS vacant because of the
> hulking Theissen
> Vending. However, they will undergo an extensive exterior rehab
> soon, so
> should add some visual life to the intersection.
>
> It's true that there are several vital consumer businesses at the
> intersection: Nicollet Ace Hardware, Marissa's, Finer Meats,
> Shorty & Wags,
> Tacos Blass - but this is an intersection that is struggling.
>
> Whether tons of cars whizzing past will make it better remains to
> be seen.
>
> Also, on the subject of thriving Nicollet business nodes at 46th &
> 54th, but
> not 38th: let's not ascribe everything to transportation. As you move
> further south on Nicollet, disposable income also climbs - which,
> I submit,
> has more to do with supporting strong neighborhood businesses than
> anything.
>
> 38th was THE major east-west bus street between streetcar lines, but I
> submit the hollowing out of business nodes had at least as much to
> do with
> increased poverty and declining real incomes than building ramps at
> 35th/36th instead.
>
> It is certainly possible that the Access Project could raise the
> standard of
> living north of 38th, especially if 35th and 36th become more sane
> places to
> live (or at least compensate for 38th's decreased sanity). Still,
> I think
> it's a huge gamble, especially for $150 million.
>
> David Brauer
> King Field
>
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