Avidor wrote:

So the design will have to change to prevent killing children by
including stoplights and walk signs.....which will make it a plain,
ordinary on and off ramp.

Then there's the cost of maintaining the shubbery, trees and grass. What
is the dollar amount the City of Minneapolis will have to pay to buy and
maintain the Access Project "mitigation".?


Jeanne Massey:

While I'm against the Access Project (and will continue to oppose it), I'm
for making it as
good as possible for Kingfield and the other neighborhoods if the project
actually happens.  In this vain, I support the roundabout interchange
proposed for 38th Street, given that it provides for pedestrian and
bicyclist safety.  It is a very creative design, both aesthetically and
functionally, and is a mitigative measure.  The advantages of a roundabout
are that it allows traffic to flow more smoothly, reduces traffic speed,
reduces accidents overall and prevents head-on collisions (which are the
most dangerous and typical as drivers speed through red lights at
interchanges).  The challenge is to accommodate pedestrians and bicyclists
and project staff are currently studying how to best do this.

Many roundabouts have some sort of lighting for traffic flow purposes. In
the case of 38th Street, it may be as simple as adding a pedestrian light to
push as needed.  Keep in
mind that 38th Street is one of three pedestrian and bicyclist crossing
opportunities in the area. As a part of the project, the 36th Street bridge
would be rebuilt as a primary pedestrian and bicyclist crossing as would the
40th Street pedestrian bridge. Thus, people do not have to cross at 38th
Street, and unlikely will, unless they live on 38th Street.  Nonetheless,
it's important to provide for pedestrian and bicyclist crossing because of
Sabathani Community Center.

Regarding the issue of maintenance costs, the PAC recommendations include
full funding of maintenance as a condition of the project.  In no way,
should the mitigation proposals (the roundabout is a part of the mitigation
proposal) be whittled away for lack of money.  The PAC has taken a firm
stance that
full mitigation funding be committed along with construction funds
or the PAC will not support the project.  If mitigation doesn't happen,
neither does the project.

I believe the project shouldn't happen at all and that available funds be
used to fix and mitigate the current ramp infrastructure (without building
new ramps).  However, if the project goes forward, I'll advocate the
roundabout stay in the design (until shown untenable), for the advantages I
state above. Roundabouts are in use throughout the world and work very
successfully. We should look to these examples for what's possible in
Minneapolis.

Jeanne Massey
Kingfield


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