Actually Greg's response to my using "Disreputable lawyer" in Phillips is
very amusing.  If Greg had been around for any length of time he would know
I was referring to another lawyer who the old POP group tried to get a
restraining order against.  No Greg, it is humorous that you saw those words
and just assumed I meant you, but I did mean someone else. Others from the
neighborhood reading or hearing of this will get quite a laugh. We have had
more than one "disbarred" or kicked out of law school "lawyer" attempting to
"Takeover" the neighborhood organization before you happened along.  Perhaps
you should talk to Brother Paul Weir in private, he will if he wishes give
you, at the minimum, several good stories about another such lawyer.

If Mr. Luce wishes to create a voting category of "Disreputable Lawyer" he
can propose that at a Ventura Village committee meeting and if passed it
will be considered by the Board of Ventura Village.

Mr. Luce knows quite well that he gave an interpretation of the law at that
public meeting that was incorrect. Mr. Luce also knows he has attempted many
more than one motion at Ventura Village.
If he does not know these things possibly his memory or mine is bad.

Mr. Luce knows quite well that anyone can participate at committee meetings
including all businesses, rental residents, property owners or any homeowner
resident.  Ventura Village even allows disreputable lawyers vote in
committee's as long as they maintain their principal office in Ventura
Village.

For Fred Markus: Fred, Ventura Village Neighborhood differs from most
organizations in only one way.  In order to be more inclusive Ventura
Village allows ALL residents and property owners to vote at Board Meetings
with exactly the same voting power as an elected Board Director. Whittier
for example allows ONLY elected  Board Members to vote at Board meetings.
ALL businesses, (which includes non-profits), residents and  property owners
are allowed to vote and participate at all committee meetings.  This is
exactly as it is done in most neighborhoods.  The old Phillips neighborhoods
use the method of allowing all attending members to vote at "Board
Meetings".  I am sure this came about because of the experience of the POP
organization. Fred, please come and observe a meeting in person. You are
very welcome.



We were told this was a concern to NRP officials, because they wanted a
"limited" board making decisions.  Ventura Village refused to be less
inclusive, stating that the purpose of NRP was to be as inclusive as
possible, and the greater the number of people able to vote at Board
meetings the better. Ventura Village continues that practice as does East
Phillips, Mid Town Phillips, and West Phillips. It is a practice that more
neighborhoods should adopt.  At any board meeting the possible number of
votes on an important issue includes every resident of that neighborhood.
Not that many show up, but neither does the total number of board members at
most other Neighborhood's meetings.

Readers should probably ask Dean Zimmerman or Karen Clark, or Linda Berglin,
or Robert Miller, or the NRP representative Barb Lickness about which
person's "memory" is faulty here. Each has attended Ventura Village
meetings. Or perhaps the reader should call John Bohnsack, the Minister who
runs Augustana's CES program. Pastor John is the Secretary of the Ventura
Village Neighborhood Organization, and a quite reputable minister.  As such
he will know how voting is conducted and who is included voting in Ventura
Village Board Meetings, and probably give a honest answer.

Jim Graham,
Ventura Village

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