WizardMarks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

WM: Actually, it's the state that denies Johnson's a
lobbyist. He is not registered with the state as a
lobbyist. 

David Piehl asks:
Would he be required to register in Minnesota if the
lobbying is in Washington?  (honest question)

Wizard wrote:
According to the architects at a PAC meeting last
week, the architects met with Piehl within the last
month to show him the drawings for the corner of 31st.
St. and Second Av. and see whether he approved of
them.

David Piehl writes:
Actually, the meeting was Wednesday, April 2, and it
was for all residents of the historic district,
specifically the 2nd Avenue residents.  It is part of
the federally mandated process regarding impact on
federally designated historic structures.  The
results:  while the architects finally managed to get
the median right, after 8 months of the residents
describing it to them - the general consensus is
non-approval of the proximity of the freeway.  Tom
Johnson had promised to work on that issue, and may
yet produce some results but the work to date is not
satisfactory.  We are currently gathering information
and contemplating options.  A block meeting will be
scheduled to determine our action plan.  Whatever
idiot claimed at the PAC that Healy Historic District
residents are ok with the plan other than "a vocal
minority" flat out lied.  That is not the consensus of
the residents, and was another misrepresentation to
the PAC.  We do feel that progress has been made,
whether it is sufficient hasn't been answered since
the meeting was just a few days ago.

Wizard wrote:
On Tuesday of last week, Ken Avidor presented himself
to the March 03 PAC meeting as representing STRIDE
with a list of suggestions, saying "nothing was set in
stone, everything is on the table." (Referring to 
the Phase I plan. The effrontery shown by coming into
a county appointed/neighborhood recommended  body to
assert that the work they had spent 4 years completing
was "on the table" to be picked apart and redone
(presumably by STRIDE members) was spectacular.

David Piehl writes:
I wasn't in attendance (were you?), but I believe Ken
quoted the federal laws that give him the right to
make that statement.  I know the private-public
partnerships may object, but it is federal law.

Wizard wrote:
Lilligren sat on the PAC for four years and voted with
the group on virtually everything but 
the final outcome. 

David Piehl writes:
If you had been there, you would know that Lilligren
often dissented, and was sometimes the lone dissenter.
 I've learned alot from him about avoiding
"groupthink".

Wizard wrote:
Piehl was plugged in to the process and walked away.

David Piehl writes:
Wrong again.  I resigned from the CNIA board because
of the liability it entailed, and the CNIA seat I
occupied was passed to another board member.  I didn't
mind leaving the PAC, as by that time I realized I was
being used by MNDoT & Smith Parker to legitimize a
predetermined outcome. (rubberstamp) We've had this
discussion more than once.  I remain involved in the
process.

David Piehl
Central

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