Certainly, legalizing marijuana will not cure all of our society's woes, but
it will remove pot smokers from the vicinity of drug thugs who want to make
even more money by introducing them to harder stuff.

While it won't cure all of society's ills, decriminalization of marijuana
will at least cure a small portion of it.  Some "wars" are better won one
small battle at a time...

Wendy Introwitz Pareene
South Minneapolis





Message: 5
From: "Dennis Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mpls] Drugs;Adult Involvement
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:55:05 -0500


Michelle Writes:

I was on a panel discussion yesterday on "Jordan melee--one year later" (for
a City Pages article) and Tim Dolan stated that most of the busts they do
for drugs in the city are for marijuana--MARIJUANA!  I could not believe my
ears--not crack, not heroine, not crystal meth--MARIJUANA!

Dennis Responds:

When is the next panel discussion on the "Bryn Mawr Melee"?  I'd like to
request to be seated as a panel member.

It should come as no real surpirse that marijuana leads all DRUGS from the
standpoint of investment AND busts manpower-wise for the MPD.  It's a very
low-risk offense for dealers, and the risks associated with selling are
worth the paltry rewards.  I'd be curious to find-out what percent of the
total investment/busts this represents especially for "impacted areas".
I've read the latest precinct reports,as well as the feedback on chargeable
offenses as they relate to impact statements for my neighborhood and I'm
left scratching my head.

Unless other neighborhoods are handled differently that mine, I can assure
you a very small amount of time is being spent by the police in the
apprehension of "pot dealers".


Michelle Writes:

If marijuana sales and use were decriminalized, it would sure deflate the
financial base of some of the criminal element and would keep people from
coming into impacted areas to buy their recreational drugs.  Folks would
just go down to their local Walgreens, liquor store or whatever.  We'd need
laws to prevent driving while impaired, etc. but overall this would really
reduce some of the activity associated with the criminalization of this low
level drug and allow police to focus on bigger issues in those impacted
areas.

Dennis Responds:

I am growing weary of the fact that some would like to draw a correlation
between the socially disenfranchised and the legalization of pot.
Legalizing pot won't make the gangs, or the violence go away, or for that
matter, the socially disenfranchised and happier.  The "bigger" issues in
impacted areas can't be solved by the police, or the legalization of pot.
It's a societal issue that has yet to be dealt with.

I am somewhat amused by the fact that it's been pointed-out to me in the
past, on list, that some posters had relatives that participated in
prohibition and that everything turned-out okay (with them) when alchohol
was legalized.  In fact, some even went on to hold very respectable
positions within society.  However, the pot dealers (mostly gang members)
that I know of in my neighborhood won't change their behaviour because we
legalize pot and they no longer have a source of income.  They'll find
something else to make money from, and somehow I don't think it'll be
getting a job or becoming a contributing member of society.  Again, I am not
opposed to legalizing pot.  I am against using the reason to legalize pot as
a means to end societal woes that are very loosely connected to it.

There's an old saying - "be carefull of what you ask for, it may come true".
  Right now we have a realtively low-level offense associated with selling
pot on the street corner.  Most gang members have adapted to the laws, and
know them well.  It's part of doing business, and even looked upon as a
source of amusement by some (getting a ride downtown, knowing full-well
you'll be back on the street in two hours).  At this point, legalizing pot
will disrupt the socio-economic balance (regardless of how dysfunctional it
is).  Personally, I shudder to think what my neighborhood would be like, if
all the current pot dealers had to find something else to do for a source of
income.  I'd probably end-up moving to a nicer neighborhood, and driving
property values/rents-up even higher than they are now.

I really truly would like to believe that by legalizing pot, many of those
currently selling on the street corner would suddenly become contributing
members of society.  However, my gut tells me that most would turn to
something else illegal, probably more harmful, and much more precious to
defend as a way to generate income.  But then again, maybe I'd have a
different opinion, if I didn't live amongst it.

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