On 11/9/03 9:48 PM, "Tim Bonham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Tim, the term "Breeder" is very derogatory. It is not very different from >> the ones that were once used on gay people. Some people are flaming >> heterosexual and darn proud of it, but "breeder" is about as insulting a >> word as I can think of. > Well, I'm sorry if people found this insulting. I would have left > that word out, if I had realized it would distract people from my comments. > > My dictionary doesn't say anything about it being derogatory; I thought it > was just descriptive. And not indicative of sexual orientation either; I > have many gay & lesbian friends who have produced kids. FWIW, I didn't read Tim's use of the word "breeder" to mean "heterosexual." That wouldn't make sense, since he used it as counterpoint to single people without kids. This isn't the 1850s or 1950s. There's no reason to believe that only heterosexuals have children or that children are a necessary result of heterosexual relationships. Besides, even if it might feel like a potentially derogatory term, what does it mean? Is there any sort of negative connotation? Have heterosexuals been struggling under the weight of gay oppression? Frankly, I find it sort of funny. (Caveat: I actually use the term, infrequently, to describe my friends who want to have kids and move to the 'burbs; and/or people who bring annoying children into theaters, restaurants, and public transit. Maybe that's just some sort of pomo attempt to recapture a word that has been integral in the subjugation of heterosexuals? Rad.) Mike Skoglund -- Loring Park / Financial District NYNY REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
