Now I understand! In Vicky's World (run by conservatives of course) there are no ordinances, no laws because "people will do what they want to do - whether you like it or not".
In Vicky's World it seems, all activities would be allowed to exist unfettered because, after all, there is nothing we can do because "people will do what they want to do"! The people who would limit - but not prohibit - those activities to certain places and times are just a bunch of leftists or hypocrites because people have "desires which create markets and all of the laws in the world won't change that." Of course if we apply Vicky's World reasoning to other common vices and enterprises we will end up with a ruthless anarchy which both liberals and traditional conservatives generally agree means the end of civil society. The decision to prohibit smoking in bars and restaurants in Minneapolis is a public health policy question - it is not about "rights" since smoking is not a right by any definition and the City of Minneapolis does have the authority to make and enforce such an ordinance. Jim Bernstein Fulton -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Victoria Heller Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 6:24 AM To: Mpls Forum Subject: [Mpls] Free Markets 101 - Mayor Rybak is correct Lesson One: People will do what they want to do - whether you like it or not. Have you ever seen a billboard for crack? Have you ever seen a magazine ad for marijuana? Have you ever seen a direct mail piece for meth? Despite reams of laws, these huge, profitable [though non-taxable] markets continue to grow. How does the Left explain this? It should be obvious - DESIRE creates markets, not advertising. All of the laws in the world won't change that. And what about the Left's "pro-choice" arguments: You know, the "keep your laws off my body" crowd. The anti-smoking zealots sound like a bunch of hypocrites to me. I think smokers should claim minority, disenfranchised, victim group status. Yep, a protected class - that's the answer. Once organized, the group could sue the government to recover BILLIONS of oppressive taxes paid. Vicky Heller North Oaks and Cedar Riverside "As government expands, liberty contracts." -- Ronald Reagan (1911-2004) 40th US President Recommended reading: "Free to Choose" by Milton Friedman REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
