----- Original Message ----- From: "Terrell Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Minneapolis Issues Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 6:09 AM Subject: RE: [Mpls] Smoking Ban: What to do now?
> Dan McGrath > > The simple point here that everyone seems to overlook, is > that both smoking, and being exposed to second hand smoke are > personal choices. ... We have a City Council which now > wants to make our personal decisions for us. [TB] Amazing the number of people that don't realize that a civilized society requires certain rules with which its members are expected to comply. Dorie A civilized society has protection from the government by the government of private property. To ban smoking in common places, public buildings, airports, hospitals etc. would constitute a rule, to tell a private citizen to ban smoking from their private property is trodding on rights. A citizen can decide if they want a smoke free/smoking establishment. There should be the choice of two permits issued by the city. If the owner decides smoking...you don't go there...just like other establishments that you would not go to by choice. Habits or not, everyone has rights and yes, smokers had a free rein which resulted in this mess. But the pendulum swung too far for correction. After my mother died of lung cancer from smoking, I received a box of smokes from the cigarette companies wishing her the best! That is where government control can be established along with education of people not to smoke. Bar/restuarant owners, knowing that no one wishes to be in a smokey environment could choose the the nonsmoking permit while there are some smokey saloons that the patrons wish to go out in flame. So be it.....Live and let live. Dorie Rae Gallagher Nokomis > If anyone is actually looking to DO something about this new > ban, visit http://www.smokeoutgary.org Omitted disclosure: Domain ID:D104668513-LROR Domain Name:SMOKEOUTGARY.ORG Created On:24-Jul-2004 07:49:48 UTC Last Updated On:25-Jul-2004 05:00:12 UTC Expiration Date:24-Jul-2005 07:49:48 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:R39-LROR Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:334CD5FF788F415A Registrant Name:Dan McGrath Registrant Organization:Smoke Out Gary Registrant Street1:3429 Snelling Ave S Registrant City:Mpls Registrant State/Province:MN Registrant Postal Code:55406 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.6127025649 Registrant Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin ID:334CD5FF788F415A Admin Name:Dan McGrath Admin Organization:Smoke Out Gary Admin Street1:3429 Snelling Ave S Admin City:Mpls Admin State/Province:MN Admin Postal Code:55406 Admin Country:US Admin Phone:+1.6127025649 Admin Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tech ID:334CD5FF788F415A Tech Name:Dan McGrath Tech Organization:Smoke Out Gary Tech Street1:3429 Snelling Ave S Tech City:Mpls Tech State/Province:MN Tech Postal Code:55406 Tech Country:US Tech Phone:+1.6127025649 Tech Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Name Server:NS1.GUESSHOST.COM Name Server:NS2.GUESSHOST.COM Terrell Brown Loring Park REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
