> A couple of people in this thread have commented that they rarely see people 
> blow through red lights.  That they don't see them scares me -- it's evidence
> that they as well as other drivers are not as competent, alert and observant 
> as they ought to be.


i'll take offense to you claiming i am an incompetentant driver.  look up my
record.  there is one speeding ticket about 6 years ago if it is even still on
there.  i have had one accident claim when i was rear ended by the car on 94
who couldn't tell that we hit stop and go traffic.

to reiterate, i have witnessed people go through red lights.  i have never
witnessed anyone hit any other car or person running a red light.  i have never
witnessed any car needing to stop at a green to avoid a car going through a red
light.  i have witnessed someone blow through a stop sign and hit a car in
front of me.  i have also avoided someone going through a stop sign and nearly
clipping me.

i don't doubt this happens.  never have.  people have the pain to prove it
does.  i just don't believe it happens because of some drivers blatent
disregard for the law and i don't think at all it happens with the frequency
one would believe it does, reading this thread.

John Harris
webber-camden, who drives a white dodge dakota so if you see one you better
steer clear because chris says i am a stupid driver who obviously doesn't pay
attention and chris would know because we ride together all the time, wait a
minute, we don't, i don't even know who he is past someone who sits in and
takes notes at the park board meetings.  That chris must be a smart guy knowing
my driving habits having never met me.


                
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