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    Subject:     Re: [Mpls] what exact restaurants have closed...?
    Date:     October 28, 2005 10:29:53 AM CDT
    To:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Oct 27, 2005, at 4:15 PM, Gina Palandri wrote:


After reading the Lavender Mag Ward 9 news-and seeing this quote by Shegstad- I want a list of what 40 bars have closed??? Thanks Dan M. for the link..but can you explain or list the 40 bars?


One list is posted on a local blog (http:// cleanairquality.blogspot.com/) ... the blog entry with a list of restaurants/bars is here: http://tinyurl.com/8rkwq Be forewarned -- the blogger is a rabid opponent of the smoking ban.

As to the list. I'm aware that several of the bars/restaurants on the list closed for either:

- a variety of reasons and it's unclear what role the smoking ban played; and/or

- another reason (e.g. Chang O'Hara's in St Paul closed due to bankruptcy filed as a result of loss of a lawsuit).

You will note that I've made this known to the blogger. He doesn't seem to particularly care as it interferes with the position he takes.

That said, I suspect that some of the restaurants/bars can trace their demise to the smoking ban. Whether the owner(s) failed to construct/implement a meaningful business plan is up in the air in my mind. Whether it could have been avoided is arguable but difficult to prove one way or another.

Nobody likes to see a bar or restaurant fail ... a small business person suffer financial loss ... or employees lose their jobs. I continue to think that the differences between Ramsey County and Hennepin County creates distortion that is a problem ... and if that was solved, there would be a problem at the borders of Hennepin and Ramsey Counties with continguous counties. But a metro-wide standard would be preferable in my mind to minimize such distortions. (Obviously, there's no perfect solution here ... just a better solution, IMO.)

I support the smoking ban concept ... just not thrilled with its implementation.


Rick Mons
Shoreview - Tanglewood Area



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