I'd really appreciate it if you guys could support 3JCN notation 
(http://www.3jcn.com)


Thomas


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From: Combat Cube <combatc...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:07 AM
To: mscore-developer@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Mscore-developer] Support for numbered notation (Jianpu)

I got the book from a Chinese bookstore, and indeed it is in Chinese. It 
teaches how to read jianpu (not write it) and contains a good amount of (albeit 
simple) example material. I am also currently learning Chinese, so it doubly 
serves as practice reading material.

I'm going to open up a forum thread about the octave change dots so we can get 
some other opinions on the matter. But for now, feel free to continue 
implementing it the way you proposed (I actually kind of like it).

Cheers,
CombatCube

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Brian Yan 
<brian....@verizon.net<mailto:brian....@verizon.net>> wrote:
Hi CombatCube,

Thanks for your interest and you're welcome to contribute.

I know lower-octave dots are placed below the beam lines in the conventional 
Jianpu.
But still I prefer to have the octave dots right underneath the note number so 
that it's easier to read the note value and it's consistent with placement of 
octave dots for other notes in the same chord. We can keep the beams at the 
same distance from the notes by always keeping enough space for the octave dots 
between the note number and the beams.

IMHO, the maximum possible number of octave dots would be 4 or less for each 
direction, lower and upper.
I think the conventional Jianpu would stack the dots vertically.
But we can have all possible dots in 2 rows with 2 adjacent dots in a row, as 
follows (with each "o" representing a dot).
o o
o o

I am ok with adjustments on other things.

We have an issue page for adding Jianpu support in MuseScore at following 
location (issue #141581).
https://musescore.org/en/node/141581

You're welcome to add your compilation there.
BTW, where did you buy the Jianpu book? Is it in Chinese?

Regards,
Brian





On 12/11/2016 08:54 PM, Combat Cube wrote:
Hi Brian,

I'm very interested in the work you're doing and I'm willing to contribute. I 
purchased a book on jianpu notation and I'm going to compile some references to 
compare with. It's looking great so far! I'd just like to recommend adding a 
few style options to perhaps improve the look of the score.

- Number font. Most of my reference material appears to use a sans-serif rather 
than serif font for numbers.

- Beam thickness and spacing. It appears a beam should be no thicker than a 
barline, and the distance between beams should be about 1/4 the height of a 
number.

- Octave change dot position. According to Wikipedia and my reference material, 
each note in a chord indeed has its own octave change dot(s), but the bottom 
note's dot(s) should go below the beam lines. This allows the beam lines to 
stay in the same position relative to the notes. I'm concerned that the 
inconsistency might be too jarring for seasoned players.

Seeing how good the score is looking, I suspect you'll be tweaking these 
numbers soon enough, and adding these options would be a logical next step. If 
you're too encumbered, I'd be happy to implement them myself when appropriate.

Keep it up!
CombatCube

On Dec 10, 2016 11:06 PM, "Brian Yan" 
<brian....@verizon.net<mailto:brian....@verizon.net>> wrote:
Staff line is removed and fillRect function is used to draw note/rest duration 
dashes.
See the snapshot of current implementation below.
[Jianpu-4.png]

Still, adjustment for ties and note positions in the chord are needed and other 
stuff like key signature, etc., need to be added.


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