> I'd really appreciate it if you guys could support 3JCN notation (
http://www.3jcn.com)
I'm not sure how this managed to get a patent, as it's neither new, nor
non-obvious. There's plenty of prior art using the {pitch class, octave,
duration} tuplet to represent a note.
In any event, who would benefit by by adding patent-encumbered notation
system into MuseScore?
-- David
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Tom Ng <nguyent...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'd really appreciate it if you guys could support 3JCN notation (
> http://www.3jcn.com)
>
>
> Thomas
>
>
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> *From:* Combat Cube <combatc...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:07 AM
> *To:* mscore-developer@lists.sourceforge.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Mscore-developer] Support for numbered notation (Jianpu)
>
> I got the book from a Chinese bookstore, and indeed it is in Chinese. It
> teaches how to read jianpu (not write it) and contains a good amount of
> (albeit simple) example material. I am also currently learning Chinese, so
> it doubly serves as practice reading material.
>
> I'm going to open up a forum thread about the octave change dots so we can
> get some other opinions on the matter. But for now, feel free to continue
> implementing it the way you proposed (I actually kind of like it).
>
> Cheers,
> CombatCube
>
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Brian Yan <brian....@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi CombatCube,
>>
>> Thanks for your interest and you're welcome to contribute.
>>
>> I know lower-octave dots are placed below the beam lines in the
>> conventional Jianpu.
>> But still I prefer to have the octave dots right underneath the note
>> number so that it's easier to read the note value and it's consistent with
>> placement of octave dots for other notes in the same chord. We can keep the
>> beams at the same distance from the notes by always keeping enough space
>> for the octave dots between the note number and the beams.
>>
>> IMHO, the maximum possible number of octave dots would be 4 or less for
>> each direction, lower and upper.
>> I think the conventional Jianpu would stack the dots vertically.
>> But we can have all possible dots in 2 rows with 2 adjacent dots in a
>> row, as follows (with each "o" representing a dot).
>> o o
>> o o
>>
>> I am ok with adjustments on other things.
>>
>> We have an issue page for adding Jianpu support in MuseScore at following
>> location (issue #141581).
>> https://musescore.org/en/node/141581
>>
>> You're welcome to add your compilation there.
>> BTW, where did you buy the Jianpu book? Is it in Chinese?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/11/2016 08:54 PM, Combat Cube wrote:
>>
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> I'm very interested in the work you're doing and I'm willing to
>> contribute. I purchased a book on jianpu notation and I'm going to compile
>> some references to compare with. It's looking great so far! I'd just like
>> to recommend adding a few style options to perhaps improve the look of the
>> score.
>>
>> - Number font. Most of my reference material appears to use a sans-serif
>> rather than serif font for numbers.
>>
>> - Beam thickness and spacing. It appears a beam should be no thicker than
>> a barline, and the distance between beams should be about 1/4 the height of
>> a number.
>>
>> - Octave change dot position. According to Wikipedia and my reference
>> material, each note in a chord indeed has its own octave change dot(s), but
>> the bottom note's dot(s) should go below the beam lines. This allows the
>> beam lines to stay in the same position relative to the notes. I'm
>> concerned that the inconsistency might be too jarring for seasoned players.
>>
>> Seeing how good the score is looking, I suspect you'll be tweaking these
>> numbers soon enough, and adding these options would be a logical next step.
>> If you're too encumbered, I'd be happy to implement them myself when
>> appropriate.
>>
>> Keep it up!
>> CombatCube
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2016 11:06 PM, "Brian Yan" <brian....@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Staff line is removed and fillRect function is used to draw note/rest
>> duration dashes.
>> See the snapshot of current implementation below.
>> [image: Jianpu-4.png]
>>
>> Still, adjustment for ties and note positions in the chord are needed and
>> other stuff like key signature, etc., need to be added.
>>
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