And then Pathworks, remember doing a lot of DECNet to Pathworks...

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 12:46 PM Boyd Adamson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I remember DECnet phase V bringing a VAX to its knees just implementing
> the network stack, let alone an app. And required extensive configuration
> at every layer
>
> Not to mention committee produced protocol level fun like the Transport
> layer having 5 mutually incompatible Transport protocols
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 12:26 pm, Tim Hogard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On Feb 27, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Malcolm Herbert <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, at 11:24, Tim Hogard wrote:
>> >>> On Feb 26, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Malcolm Herbert <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> Memorex, MRX IV, 6250 BPI with a hand-written label "ISODE v2.0" ...
>> looks to be about 2400ft, so that's a whopping 193MB if it has 9 tracks on
>> it ...
>> >>
>> >> There are embarrassing things I would admit to in public.
>> >>
>> >> Having an 9 track tape with ISODE on it is not one of them.
>> >
>> > ... in my innocence, I have no idea why this is a good thing or bad ...
>> what is ISODE?
>>
>> Is is software to do the ISO layer stuff that isn't TCP/IP.  The idea was
>> to develop a standard for
>> ISO layer 3 to 5 but it suffered from spec growth.  It came out of the
>> ITU and it was very expensive
>> when if 1st came out.  We are talking that it make Oracle look cheap.  It
>> also would work for things
>> like IPX over X.25 over IPX and that sort of stuff was not discouraged.
>>
>> It includes things like X.400 and X.500.  X.500 email systems make
>> sendmail.cf  look simple.  The
>> license for a single email server would have been around $50,000 with
>> $20,000 a year.
>>
>> You may recognize parts that ended up in LDAP and certificate names.
>> The X.400 naming stuff is where stuff like " C=US, ST=Washington,
>> L=Redmond, O=Microsoft
>>  Corporation, OU=Microsoft IT, CN=Microsoft IT TLS CA 5"comes from.
>>
>> Line per line, it is some of the most evil code I've seen.
>>
>>
>> -tim
>>
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