Gee, thanks everyone for the ISO(DE) / X.25 / X.400 / X.500 mentions
(+ASN.1)

I recall writing a small lpd/lpsched filter to forward print jobs across
X.25 to a PAD thence terminal server via "reverse-Telnet" (and RS232C
serial <=> Centronics parallel convertor?) to a printer.
For delivery manifests for Castlemaine / Bond Brewing trucks -- I guess
that's "essential infrastructure" for XXXX to keep the country lubricated?
;-)
So many incompatible parameters, so little (comprehensible) debug info...


Thanks again for bringing back some long-buried memories.
Now I'm off to book myself into therapy...   :-D


-- Stuart.


p.s., for extra credit, attribute this quote:
"*If you know what you're doing, 3 layers is enough; if you don't, even 7
won't help.*"

(*from memory, may not be exact; from the COS/CWS wars*)


On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 12:51 Richard Spindler, <[email protected]> wrote:

> And then Pathworks, remember doing a lot of DECNet to Pathworks...
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 12:46 PM Boyd Adamson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I remember DECnet phase V bringing a VAX to its knees just implementing
>> the network stack, let alone an app. And required extensive configuration
>> at every layer
>>
>> Not to mention committee produced protocol level fun like the Transport
>> layer having 5 mutually incompatible Transport protocols
>>
>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 12:26 pm, Tim Hogard <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > On Feb 27, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Malcolm Herbert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, at 11:24, Tim Hogard wrote:
>>> >>> On Feb 26, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Malcolm Herbert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>> Memorex, MRX IV, 6250 BPI with a hand-written label "ISODE v2.0" ...
>>> looks to be about 2400ft, so that's a whopping 193MB if it has 9 tracks on
>>> it ...
>>> >>
>>> >> There are embarrassing things I would admit to in public.
>>> >>
>>> >> Having an 9 track tape with ISODE on it is not one of them.
>>> >
>>> > ... in my innocence, I have no idea why this is a good thing or bad
>>> ... what is ISODE?
>>>
>>> Is is software to do the ISO layer stuff that isn't TCP/IP.  The idea
>>> was to develop a standard for
>>> ISO layer 3 to 5 but it suffered from spec growth.  It came out of the
>>> ITU and it was very expensive
>>> when if 1st came out.  We are talking that it make Oracle look cheap.
>>> It also would work for things
>>> like IPX over X.25 over IPX and that sort of stuff was not discouraged.
>>>
>>> It includes things like X.400 and X.500.  X.500 email systems make
>>> sendmail.cf  look simple.  The
>>> license for a single email server would have been around $50,000 with
>>> $20,000 a year.
>>>
>>> You may recognize parts that ended up in LDAP and certificate names.
>>> The X.400 naming stuff is where stuff like " C=US, ST=Washington,
>>> L=Redmond, O=Microsoft
>>>  Corporation, OU=Microsoft IT, CN=Microsoft IT TLS CA 5"comes from.
>>>
>>> Line per line, it is some of the most evil code I've seen.
>>>
>>>
>>> -tim
>>>
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