Hi Martin & Karan

karan wrote:


i have always used external + jtag power supply without any problem.
and you should use it, otherwise, when the led will blink,
you will notice that the lcd loses power with the same timing.

r u able to reprogram the board?
i remember reading something about fuses on the msp430.
that the user code is protected, and to reporgram it,
you have to pass the correct password.

Two different things: The password is only used with the bootstrap loader used via a UART interface. To Blow the fuse you need 6V up to 7V to TDI/TCLK with a current of 100mA for at least 1mS. Since you don't provide any external power supply it is impossible to blow the fuse by mistake (provided Olimex haven't shipped a target with a blown fuse). I've never seen this very message but also have faced somewhat strange problems accessing my msp. Chris Liechti wrote once (in fact he wrote it a couple of times in different thereads :-) that most of these problems are due to power suppliance aspects with targets only driven by JTAG without external supply --> AND HE WAS RIGHT (Thanx Chris for your hints: I can erase with "jumpered on board battery"; strange way but it works). I mailed to Olimex and asked them for electrical specification or at least the current the parport-JTAG connector can provide. This is what they answered:

MSP430-JTAG takes power from LPT port
different computers have different capabilities
notebooks, desktop etc
so the max current will depend on your LPT port capability, but it's not
more than 2-3 mA
Olimex


This means if the JTAG provides 3V the msp consumes in active mode 470mA-570mA with 1MHz which p.e. also means using a board driven at 8MHz exceeds the JTAG's capabilities (max. 6MHz results in less than 3mA). So providing some additional power could be worthwhile anyway (though as Chris already wrote: Some care has to be taken!).

and once the fuse is blown the code on the processor is not accessible to anyone (this is used for final productions of msp430 + some company's proprietery software)
so that no one can steal the code.
but in this case, you should not be able to reprogram the board,

As far as I know the fuse only protects the JTAG interface. After blowing the fuse access is still possible using the bootstrap loader via a UART. In this case the "evil proprietary software company ;°)" can use the 256-bit password to access the bootstrap loader and so even can reprogram it.
Best regards

Arnd-Hendrik

and should get the error everytime, instead of intermittently.

hope it helps.

karan
CM II
Resolution Systems Inc.

On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 01:30, Collins Martin (ext) wrote:

/Hi,

i get the error message:

error: msp430:Could not access device - security fuse is blown (30)

from gdb-proxy intermittently. I downloaded and installed msp-gcc just
last week so I've got the latest versions.
I'm using the MSP430-449STK2 <//_http://www.olimex.com/dev/msp-449stk2.html_>  
kit from Olimex. I'm not providing
an external power supply to avoid the problems associated with the JTAG 
interface
having different levels to the rest of the board.

As I said I see the problem every now and then. I just wondered if someone knows
what it's about?

Thanks for any info,
Martin.



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