Dear all,

I really hope that we are not present with a situation similar to
OpenOffice. When it begun to be sponsored by oracle, new versions of
OpenOffice were not created anymore. Hope this project hasn't died for
the "OpenCommunity".

But one thing is for sure, a free tool would give a spread among
hardware devellopers that can keep worried the others micocontrollers
manufacturers  competitors.

Regards,

Vitor Barbosa


-----Mensagem original-----
De: Peter Bigot [mailto:big...@acm.org] 
Enviada: segunda-feira, 29 de Outubro de 2012 14:47
Para: David Brown
Cc: Grant Edwards; mspgcc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Assunto: Re: [Mspgcc-users] MSP430 GCC goes Red Hat

I believe Thomas is out of the office until the end of the week, so any
follow-up from TI would probably not be immediate.

Regarding conflict when TI supports both GCC and CCS, I understand that
ARM owns Keil but also is taking over as primary developer for the ARM
back-end of GCC to help improve its quality, so the situation there is
similar.

I don't have a problem with that.  There will always be corporations
that want the comfort of enhanced support, believe using GPL puts their
IP at risk, and have enough money to buy expensive toolchains regardless
of actual merit.  But that's a discussion that should be in a different
thread, as is a technical assessment of CCS.

Peter

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:40 AM, David Brown <david.br...@hesbynett.no>
wrote:
> On 26/10/12 21:28, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2012-10-26, David Brown <david.br...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>>
>>> Another issue is that TI make and sell their own msp430 toolchain - 
>>> Code Composer Studio.  I would like to hear exactly how TI see CCS 
>>> and gcc fitting together and/or competing.  It is certainly possible

>>> for TI to support both toolchains, but it could be a delicate path 
>>> to tread.
>>
>> TI is still prentending that Code Composter for the '430 is "real"?
>>
>> The last time I went to an MSP430 event (which was a few years ago), 
>> the FAE openly discouraged people from trying CC for the '430.  He 
>> told everybody to use IAR for playing with eval kits (he also briefly

>> mentioned gcc).
>>
>> World+dog seemed to be of a single mind: that CC for the 430 was
>> useless, but management at TI didn't want to admit it in public.
>>
>
> Well, I have my opinions on CC for the msp430, and they are not high -

> we have a couple of projects that use it, because when they started we

> needed to use 20-bit msp430's and gcc support for 20-bit was not yet 
> stable.  But I don't want to go into detail about what I found bad 
> about CC for the msp430, as there have been several new versions since

> them - maybe things have improved.
>
> But I would like to hear what TI's official position is here.  While 
> there are a lot of people that might feel the world would be a better 
> place if TI dropped CC for the msp430 and replaced it with Red Hat's 
> upcoming msp430 gcc (or merged the best features of the two into one 
> package), I would like to know what /TI/ plans.
>
> mvh.,
>
> David
>
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