Software will randomly install on computers all over the environment.
Desktops, Servers.. everything. It is nearly impossible to predict
when and where apps will install.

Bug was filed by another company here in Houston in January based on
deployments to computers.

We filed it based on deployments to users. It is the same section of
code causing both issues.

If this query returns any results then you would be affected if you
deployed the application in the third column to your users as
available and selected to upgrade previous versions of the application
and the app in the 4th column was installed on any machine in your
environment, including servers.


DECLARE @AppIDs TABLE(AppID NVARCHAR(200), ReqAppID NVARCHAR(200),
AppCIID INT, DisplayName NVARCHAR(200))

DECLARE @ReqAppIDs TABLE(AppID NVARCHAR(200), ReqAppID NVARCHAR(200),
AppCIID INT, DisplayName NVARCHAR(200), ReqAppCIID INT)

INSERT INTO @AppIDs

SELECT App.CI_UniqueID, REPLACE (App.CI_UniqueID, '/Application_',
'/RequiredApplication_'), App.CI_ID, A.DisplayName

FROM CI_ConfigurationItems App

JOIN fn_ListApplicationCIs(1033) A on A.CI_ID = App.CI_ID

WHERE App.IsLatest =1 AND App.CI_UniqueID like '%/Application_%'

INSERT INTO @ReqAppIDs

SELECT A.AppID, A.ReqAppID, A.AppCIID, A.DisplayName, C.CI_ID FROM @AppIDs A

JOIN CI_ConfigurationItems C ON C.CI_UniqueID = A.ReqAppID

select distinct

AA.AssignmentName, AA.RequireApproval,

RA.DisplayName AS [ThisAppBecomesAvailable]

,dt.DisplayName AS [IfThisAppIsInstalled]

--,RA.AppCIID, RA.ReqAppCIID

from CI_ConfigurationItemRelations_Flat cirf

join v_ConfigurationItems ci on cirf.ToCI_ID = ci.CI_ID and ci.CIType_ID = 21

join CI_ConfigurationItemRelations cir on cir.FromCI_ID =
cirf.FromCI_ID and cir.RelationType = 11

join CI_ConfigurationItemRelations cir2 on

cir2.FromCI_ID = cir.ToCI_ID and

cir2.RelationType = 9 and

cir2.ToCI_ID != cirf.ToCI_ID

join CI_ConfigurationItemRelations_flat cir3 on cir3.FromCI_ID =
cir2.ToCI_ID and cir3.ToCI_ID = ci.CI_ID and cir3.RelationType = 15

join fn_ListDeploymentTypeCIs(1033) DT on DT.CI_ID = ci.CI_ID

join @ReqAppIDs RA on RA.ReqAppCIID = cirf.FromCI_ID

left join v_ApplicationAssignment AA on AA.AssignedCI_UniqueID = RA.AppID

where cirf.FromCI_ID IN (

SELECT ReqAppCIID FROM @ReqAppIDs

)

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Spinelli, Robert J
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Todd can you expand on this?
>
> What are the 2 bugs you're referring to?
>
> Thank you.
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>
> How about fixing the 2 confirmed bugs that make software randomly deploy all 
> over the enterprise? This is costing us hundreds of thousands in license 
> costs unless we spend a ton of money going and cleaning it up.
>
> Bug # 409863
> Premier Case # 113042910402566
>
> Second one is case #114020411157225 - not sure what bug # got assigned to it 
> yet. They are from the same code section.
>
>
> Vinay found the root cause for both.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Brian Huneycutt <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Thanks all for the feedback and certainly the kind words. Yes, we do
>> like to fix things in Sustained Engineering :) Definitely submit ideas via 
>> our Connect site.
>> We are working toward making the update process a little clearer and will 
>> have more to share soon. I too like the idea of keeping the version 
>> information in one place for ease of use/discoverability (similar in 
>> function to the SQL version KB).
>>
>> In the meantime a bit more on the Automatic Client Upgrade feature (as it 
>> stands today - not to say that it can't or won't change in a future version).
>> This feature currently only works with full clients -client.msi- that are 
>> shipped with a major release (SP1/R2). It's an all-or-nothing scenario with 
>> no specific targeting, reporting, etc. But as mentioned it can be turned 
>> off, and is off by default.
>> We ship client updates / patches as .MSP files in hotfixes and cumulative 
>> updates instead of the full client.msi, and the plumbing simply isn't there 
>> today in Auto Client Upgrade to handle those.
>> With all of that said, do keep the feedback coming to Connect on this 
>> feature, or on any specific problems/ goals as they relate to servicing.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Brian Huneycutt
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 5:00 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>
>> Another great feature would be an in-console "check for updates" That would 
>> verify if the environemnt and clients are on the latest versions.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:56 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>
>> Yes,  that's what sustained engineering does. :-)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kent, Mark
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:46 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>
>> But maybe he can fix the glitch :-)
>>
>> Mark Kent (MCP)
>> Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer
>> Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 4:44 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>
>> He's not a PM... Sustained Engineering
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:43 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>
>> Are you the only PM interested in improving things?
>>
>> would you please take over applications and content distribution?
>>
>> You are taking me back to 2005'ish when the community and MS worked together 
>> to improve things. Getting me all nostalgic and stuff...
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Brian Huneycutt <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Having multiple product versions in market at once can definitely
>>> make things confusing :)
>>> 5.00.7958.1104 is an R2 hotfix (pre-CU1)
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2910552
>>>
>>> John in your list below you have these (I've sorted earliest to
>>> latest)
>>> 5.00.7711.0000 - 2012 RTM
>>> 5.00.7804.1000 - 2012 SP1
>>> 5.00.7958.1000 - 2012 R2
>>> 5.00.7958.1101 - R2 hotfix 2905002 (superseded by 2910552. Both
>>> articles are cross-referenced, and both in R2 CU1)
>>> 5.00.7958.1203 - R2 CU1
>>>
>>> Our KB articles for Cumulative Updates now contain all the version specific 
>>> details you should need to make identification easier, though we have not 
>>> retroactively added that info to older articles.
>>> It looks like some of our individual hotfix KB articles don't explicitly 
>>> call out the client version when it changes; we can work on correcting 
>>> those.
>>> What else should we consider to ease the confusion?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian Huneycutt
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 1:30 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: RE: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>>
>>> Here's what I have. I think the way they are doing updates is a confusing 
>>> mess.
>>>
>>> 5.00.7958.1000
>>> 5.00.7958.1203
>>> 5.00.7711.0000
>>> 5.00.7804.1000
>>> 5.00.7958.1101
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:22 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>>
>>> yes, and somehow I am at an impossible version number.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgrdogs/archive/2014/04/11/configmg
>>>> r
>>>> -
>>>> 2012-version-numbers.aspx
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Center_Configuration_Manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not from Microsoft direct, but these show the version numbers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:12 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>>>>
>>>>> you happen to have a link to the update you installed? I am doing
>>>>> something wrong over here.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Kent, Mark
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I have 5.00.7958.1203, from one post R2 CU1 update.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mark Kent (MCP)
>>>>> > Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer
>>>>> > Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: [email protected]
>>>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 1:03 PM
>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>> > Subject: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  What is the most recent client version? I have 5.00.7958.1104
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I get ZERO hits when googling that version.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > /Todd
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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