How about fixing the 2 confirmed bugs that make software randomly
deploy all over the enterprise? This is costing us hundreds of
thousands in license costs unless we spend a ton of money going and
cleaning it up.

Bug # 409863
Premier Case # 113042910402566

Second one is case #114020411157225 - not sure what bug # got assigned
to it yet. They are from the same code section.


Vinay found the root cause for both.


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Brian Huneycutt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks all for the feedback and certainly the kind words. Yes, we do like to 
> fix things in Sustained Engineering :)
> Definitely submit ideas via our Connect site.
> We are working toward making the update process a little clearer and will 
> have more to share soon. I too like the idea of keeping the version 
> information in one place for ease of use/discoverability (similar in function 
> to the SQL version KB).
>
> In the meantime a bit more on the Automatic Client Upgrade feature (as it 
> stands today - not to say that it can't or won't change in a future version).
> This feature currently only works with full clients -client.msi- that are 
> shipped with a major release (SP1/R2). It's an all-or-nothing scenario with 
> no specific targeting, reporting, etc. But as mentioned it can be turned off, 
> and is off by default.
> We ship client updates / patches as .MSP files in hotfixes and cumulative 
> updates instead of the full client.msi, and the plumbing simply isn't there 
> today in Auto Client Upgrade to handle those.
> With all of that said, do keep the feedback coming to Connect on this 
> feature, or on any specific problems/ goals as they relate to servicing.
>
> Thanks again,
> Brian Huneycutt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Marcum, John
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 5:00 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>
> Another great feature would be an in-console "check for updates" That would 
> verify if the environemnt and clients are on the latest versions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Marcum, John
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>
> Yes,  that's what sustained engineering does. :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Kent, Mark
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>
> But maybe he can fix the glitch :-)
>
> Mark Kent (MCP)
> Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer
> Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Marcum, John
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 4:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>
> He's not a PM... Sustained Engineering
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:43 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>
> Are you the only PM interested in improving things?
>
> would you please take over applications and content distribution?
>
> You are taking me back to 2005'ish when the community and MS worked together 
> to improve things. Getting me all nostalgic and stuff...
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Brian Huneycutt <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Having multiple product versions in market at once can definitely make
>> things confusing :)
>> 5.00.7958.1104 is an R2 hotfix (pre-CU1)
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2910552
>>
>> John in your list below you have these (I've sorted earliest to
>> latest)
>> 5.00.7711.0000 - 2012 RTM
>> 5.00.7804.1000 - 2012 SP1
>> 5.00.7958.1000 - 2012 R2
>> 5.00.7958.1101 - R2 hotfix 2905002 (superseded by 2910552. Both
>> articles are cross-referenced, and both in R2 CU1)
>> 5.00.7958.1203 - R2 CU1
>>
>> Our KB articles for Cumulative Updates now contain all the version specific 
>> details you should need to make identification easier, though we have not 
>> retroactively added that info to older articles.
>> It looks like some of our individual hotfix KB articles don't explicitly 
>> call out the client version when it changes; we can work on correcting those.
>> What else should we consider to ease the confusion?
>> Thanks,
>> Brian Huneycutt
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 1:30 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>
>> Here's what I have. I think the way they are doing updates is a confusing 
>> mess.
>>
>> 5.00.7958.1000
>> 5.00.7958.1203
>> 5.00.7711.0000
>> 5.00.7804.1000
>> 5.00.7958.1101
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:22 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>
>> yes, and somehow I am at an impossible version number.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgrdogs/archive/2014/04/11/configmgr
>>> -
>>> 2012-version-numbers.aspx
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Center_Configuration_Manager
>>>
>>>
>>> Not from Microsoft direct, but these show the version numbers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:12 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>>>
>>>> you happen to have a link to the update you installed? I am doing
>>>> something wrong over here.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Kent, Mark
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I have 5.00.7958.1203, from one post R2 CU1 update.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mark Kent (MCP)
>>>> > Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer
>>>> > Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: [email protected]
>>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 1:03 PM
>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>> > Subject: [mssms] Client Version 5.00.7958.1104 (R2 CU1)
>>>> >
>>>> >  What is the most recent client version? I have 5.00.7958.1104
>>>> >
>>>> > I get ZERO hits when googling that version.
>>>> >
>>>> > /Todd
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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