We never change the computer names, but I would expect if you select a new name during the task sequence, it will prevent the same account from being re-used. Instead, you might try changing the computer name before re-imaging it, or re-image it with the same name and change it after the process is complete.
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Chris Carbone < chris.carb...@fairmountsantrol.com> wrote: > Even if you change the computer name? > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: > listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Whitcher > *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 12:37 PM > > *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm > object > > > > We don't even use a refresh task sequence... our OSD task sequence is > pretty much always deployed from pxe, going through the new computer ts > steps. Even so, it still re-uses the same computer account in AD. > > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Juelich, Adam < > acjuel...@pulaskischools.org> wrote: > > You don't have to delete ANYTHING in order to do an OSD refresh on a > machine. > > > *-----------------------------------------------* > > *Adam Juelich* > > Pulaski Community School District <http://www.pulaskischools.org> > > Client Management Specialist > > 920-822-6075 > > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:16 AM, ccollins9 <ccolli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Unless I missed where someone mentioned otherwise, I don't think it's > possible to re-image without deleting from at least AD. If you just simply > rename a computer, SCCM will pick up that change and rename the object > within SCCM because the GUIDs are the same. Same with AD, a rename is fine > because the SID remains the same. But when you re-image a computer, the AD > SID and SCCM GUID are now different and it's treated as a new object. SCCM > will allow duplicate names with different GUIDs, but AD won't allow > duplicate names at all. > > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Chris Carbone < > chris.carb...@fairmountsantrol.com> wrote: > > The problem is we do not want these objects getting deleted at all. Our > ticketing system pulls from SCCM so when you start deleting objects and > adding new objects, our ticketing system is becoming littered with old > computer names. > > > > We want to reimage a computer, and if the name is different, we need it to > stay associated with the same object in SCCM. We want the object for a > computer entered one time, and it always lives in AD/SCCM even if renamed. > > > > Hopefully this makes sense. > > > > > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: > listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Juelich, Adam > *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 11:45 AM > > > *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm > object > > > > What Steve said... > > > > You should have a naming convention and then stick to it to prevent the > issues you are creating. Rename the machines at the end or after the > fact. Your TS should be zero-touch unless you're dealing with bare-metal. > Otherwise, delete the object and handle it that way. If the machines are > being re-purposed for a different area you'll most likely want to delete > the object anyways depending on how you're doing Application deployment. > You don't want the machine to automatically get deployed applications it > may no longer need (again, depending on how you're deploying and how you're > creating your collections). > > > *-----------------------------------------------* > > *Adam Juelich* > > Pulaski Community School District <http://www.pulaskischools.org> > > Client Management Specialist > > 920-822-6075 > > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:27 AM, ccollins9 <ccolli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > How are you all dealing with the object in AD? AD doesn't allow > duplicate names, so AFAIK the only way to make sure the newly imaged > computer gets in AD properly is to either first delete the old object in > AD, or go into AD, find the computer, right-click and select and click > "reset account" before the TS joins the computer to the domain. > > > > This whole thread may lead me to also fully automating this, as we > currently have helpdesk members delete the old computer from SCCM and AD > first, and if I do automate it, I think my first attempt would be to use > the PowerShell commands Remove-CMDevice and Remove-ADComputer. If I > venture down that path, ill share my results. > > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Chris Carbone < > chris.carb...@fairmountsantrol.com> wrote: > > Currently I have UDI popping up so helpdesk can change name, date, time, > and choose software etc. > > > > That is good to know if the name stays the same, no new object is created. > But need to also figure out how we can keep that same object even if the > name changes. > > > > > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: > listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Whitcher > *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 10:52 AM > *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm > object > > > > How are you changing the computer name? Are you entering the computer > name manually at the start of the task sequence? > > > > In my environment, we use a standard naming convention for workstations, > so the names never change. Our OSD task sequence is fully automated, so > that after initiating the pxe boot there is no user interaction required. > SCCM already knows the computer, by MAC and GUID, so the task sequence > assigns the computer the same name that it had before. No duplicate > computers are created in SCCM or AD. > > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Chris Carbone < > chris.carb...@fairmountsantrol.com> wrote: > > So this is great, now we can reimage without dealing with deleting > computers in SCCM first. > > > > But there is still a problem. When I reimage a computer now, and change > the name of it. Both entries appear in AD and SCCM. What I would like to > happen is the name changes the existing object, and doesn’t create a new > object. Maybe I can add a couple steps to my TS that deletes the old > computer name/object before it starts imaging? Just throwing ideas out > there. > > > > I’m currently testing this out also. If I leave the computer name the > same, what happens when you reimage. > > > > Thanks again for everyones help! > > > > > > > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: > listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Whitcher > *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 9:52 AM > > > *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm > object > > > > I know it's one of those things that people will argue about until the end > of time, but I'm in the "Never deploy anything to the 'All Systems' > collection" camp. ESPECIALLY an OSD task sequence... > > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Ryan <ryan2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Think of it this way, if you deploy it correctly to All Systems then no > one can accidentally deploy it there! You can't deploy a task sequence > twice to the same collection. > > Just make sure you have the song Danger Zone playing in the background > when you make the deployment. > > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 2:26 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld < > jun...@2pintsoftware.com> wrote: > > If you are on 2012, deply to a collection of your liking, ”All systems” > being mentioned and could be safe/unsafe. Just make sure nobody has right > to change the PXE/USB/MEDIA flag to “Clients”, and use “Available” rather > than “Required”. > > > > My 2 swedish kroners! > > > > //A > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: > listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *ccollins9 > *Sent:* den 1 april 2015 23:49 > *To:* mssms > > > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm > object > > > > "You can't change a deployment from available to required without doing > some very unsupported things in the database. > Can it be done in SCCM 2007? If so, maybe a deployment to All Systems is > just what you need to get that upgrade started!" > > > > Yes, you're right, I was thinking SCCM 2007 and the idea of it used to > terrify me haha. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Ryan <ryan2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You can't change a deployment from available to required without doing > some very unsupported things in the database. > > Can it be done in SCCM 2007? If so, maybe a deployment to All Systems is > just what you need to get that upgrade started! > > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:45 AM, ccollins9 <ccolli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "Advertise the task sequence to All Systems, boot media/pxe only. > That’s how we’re doing it in the 2012 system we’re setting up now, seems to > work like a charm." > > > > I wouldn't ever recommend anyone do this unless you have reallllllly tight > control (permissions) over SCCM and ALL the techs working it know it well. > All it takes is someone setting that advertisement to "required" and then > all the computers in your domain will be re-imaged. Granted there is a > safety net there with PXE/Boot Media option, but if a computer reboots and > has PXE enabled, wouldn't it boot to PXE and begin the image installation? > > > > > > My recommendation is to give the lower level technicians access to delete > machines in certain collections. SCCM is designed to be used by everyone > from end-user to the highest tiers of support. You can lock many things > down with permissions. We package the SCCM console and push it to all our > techs in the IT department. They have the console, but can only do what > they have permissions for. > > > > Another method and maybe a safer one if the above scares you---SCCM 2012 > supports PowerShell commands. Create a service account with permissions to > delete objects using the Remove-CMDevice command and script it. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Jessie Twaddle <jtwad...@gustavus.edu> > wrote: > > The unknown systems works great for unknown systems, but what do you do > when SCCM already knows about the computer and the staff who deploy the > images have no access to SCCM? Rather then have them contact Sccm admin > every time they need to reimage, I just use wds to deploy the base image. > It would be great to use SCCM always. If anyone has an automated way > around this issue, please let me know. > > Jessie > > On Apr 1, 2015 4:33 AM, "Trond Karstensen" <trond.karsten...@skill.no> > wrote: > > I always advertise to «all systems» pxe & media only, and to all unknown > computers. > > And password protect the TS. > > > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: > listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Gilbert > *Sent:* tirsdag 31. mars 2015 22.29 > *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm > object > > > > Available to all unknown systems is the ticket: > https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn818437.aspx > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ > mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Juelich, Adam > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 4:23 PM > *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm > object > > > > Rule of thumb is to never deploy anything to 'All Systems.' Unless you're > into extreme sports or something.... > > > *-----------------------------------------------* > > *Adam Juelich* > > Pulaski Community School District <http://www.pulaskischools.org> > > Client Management Specialist > > 920-822-6075 > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Rob Glodt <rgl...@samhealth.org> wrote: > > Advertise the task sequence to All Systems, boot media/pxe only. That’s > how we’re doing it in the 2012 system we’re setting up now, seems to work > like a charm. > > > > Rob Glodt > > > > *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: > listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Carbone > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:15 PM > *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* [mssms] Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm object > > > > We currently need to delete the computer out of SCCM each time we want to > image a computer. Is there a way where we can image a computer without > doing this? 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