We never change the computer names, but I would expect if you select a new
name during the task sequence, it will prevent the same account from being
re-used.  Instead, you might try changing the computer name before
re-imaging it, or re-image it with the same name and change it after the
process is complete.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Chris Carbone <
chris.carb...@fairmountsantrol.com> wrote:

>  Even if you change the computer name?
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Whitcher
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 12:37 PM
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm
> object
>
>
>
> We don't even use a refresh task sequence... our OSD task sequence is
> pretty much always deployed from pxe, going through the new computer ts
> steps.  Even so, it still re-uses the same computer account in AD.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Juelich, Adam <
> acjuel...@pulaskischools.org> wrote:
>
>  You don't have to delete ANYTHING in order to do an OSD refresh on a
> machine.
>
>
>    *-----------------------------------------------*
>
> *Adam Juelich*
>
> Pulaski Community School District <http://www.pulaskischools.org>
>
> Client Management Specialist
>
> 920-822-6075
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:16 AM, ccollins9 <ccolli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Unless I missed where someone mentioned otherwise, I don't think it's
> possible to re-image without deleting from at least AD.  If you just simply
> rename a computer, SCCM will pick up that change and rename the object
> within SCCM because the GUIDs are the same.  Same with AD, a rename is fine
> because the SID remains the same.  But when you re-image a computer, the AD
> SID and SCCM GUID are now different and it's treated as a new object.  SCCM
> will allow duplicate names with different GUIDs, but AD won't allow
> duplicate names at all.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Chris Carbone <
> chris.carb...@fairmountsantrol.com> wrote:
>
>  The problem is we do not want these objects getting deleted at all. Our
> ticketing system pulls from SCCM so when you start deleting objects and
> adding new objects, our ticketing system is becoming littered with old
> computer names.
>
>
>
> We want to reimage a computer, and if the name is different, we need it to
> stay associated with the same object in SCCM. We want the object for a
> computer entered one time, and it always lives in AD/SCCM even if renamed.
>
>
>
> Hopefully this makes sense.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Juelich, Adam
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 11:45 AM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm
> object
>
>
>
> What Steve said...
>
>
>
> You should have a naming convention and then stick to it to prevent the
> issues you are creating.  Rename the machines at the end or after the
> fact.  Your TS should be zero-touch unless you're dealing with bare-metal.
> Otherwise, delete the object and handle it that way.  If the machines are
> being re-purposed for a different area you'll most likely want to delete
> the object anyways depending on how you're doing Application deployment.
> You don't want the machine to automatically get deployed applications it
> may no longer need (again, depending on how you're deploying and how you're
> creating your collections).
>
>
>    *-----------------------------------------------*
>
> *Adam Juelich*
>
> Pulaski Community School District <http://www.pulaskischools.org>
>
> Client Management Specialist
>
> 920-822-6075
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:27 AM, ccollins9 <ccolli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  How are you all dealing with the object in AD?  AD doesn't allow
> duplicate names, so AFAIK the only way to make sure the newly imaged
> computer gets in AD properly is to either first delete the old object in
> AD, or go into AD, find the computer, right-click and select and click
> "reset account" before the TS joins the computer to the domain.
>
>
>
> This whole thread may lead me to also fully automating this, as we
> currently have helpdesk members delete the old computer from SCCM and AD
> first, and if I do automate it, I think my first attempt would be to use
> the PowerShell commands Remove-CMDevice and Remove-ADComputer.  If I
> venture down that path, ill share my results.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Chris Carbone <
> chris.carb...@fairmountsantrol.com> wrote:
>
>  Currently I have UDI popping up so helpdesk can change name, date, time,
> and choose software etc.
>
>
>
> That is good to know if the name stays the same, no new object is created.
> But need to also figure out how we can keep that same object even if the
> name changes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Whitcher
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 10:52 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm
> object
>
>
>
> How are you changing the computer name?  Are you entering the computer
> name manually at the start of the task sequence?
>
>
>
> In my environment, we use a standard naming convention for workstations,
> so the names never change.  Our OSD task sequence is fully automated, so
> that after initiating the pxe boot there is no user interaction required.
> SCCM already knows the computer, by MAC and GUID, so the task sequence
> assigns the computer the same name that it had before.  No duplicate
> computers are created in SCCM or AD.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Chris Carbone <
> chris.carb...@fairmountsantrol.com> wrote:
>
>  So this is great, now we can reimage without dealing with deleting
> computers in SCCM first.
>
>
>
> But there is still a problem. When I reimage a computer now, and change
> the name of it. Both entries appear in AD and SCCM. What I would like to
> happen is the name changes the existing object, and doesn’t create a new
> object. Maybe I can add a couple steps to my TS that deletes the old
> computer name/object before it starts imaging? Just throwing ideas out
> there.
>
>
>
> I’m currently testing this out also. If I leave the computer name the
> same, what happens when you reimage.
>
>
>
> Thanks again for everyones help!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Whitcher
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 9:52 AM
>
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm
> object
>
>
>
> I know it's one of those things that people will argue about until the end
> of time, but I'm in the "Never deploy anything to the 'All Systems'
> collection" camp.  ESPECIALLY an OSD task sequence...
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Ryan <ryan2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Think of it this way, if you deploy it correctly to All Systems then no
> one can accidentally deploy it there! You can't deploy a task sequence
> twice to the same collection.
>
> Just make sure you have the song Danger Zone playing in the background
> when you make the deployment.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 2:26 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld <
> jun...@2pintsoftware.com> wrote:
>
>  If you are on 2012, deply to a collection of your liking, ”All systems”
> being mentioned and could be safe/unsafe. Just make sure nobody has right
> to change the PXE/USB/MEDIA flag to “Clients”, and use “Available” rather
> than “Required”.
>
>
>
> My 2 swedish kroners!
>
>
>
> //A
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *ccollins9
> *Sent:* den 1 april 2015 23:49
> *To:* mssms
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm
> object
>
>
>
> "You can't change a deployment from available to required without doing
> some very unsupported things in the database.
> Can it be done in SCCM 2007? If so, maybe a deployment to All Systems is
> just what you need to get that upgrade started!"
>
>
>
> Yes, you're right, I was thinking SCCM 2007 and the idea of it used to
> terrify me haha.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Ryan <ryan2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  You can't change a deployment from available to required without doing
> some very unsupported things in the database.
>
> Can it be done in SCCM 2007? If so, maybe a deployment to All Systems is
> just what you need to get that upgrade started!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:45 AM, ccollins9 <ccolli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  "Advertise the task sequence to All Systems, boot media/pxe only.
> That’s how we’re doing it in the 2012 system we’re setting up now, seems to
> work like a charm."
>
>
>
> I wouldn't ever recommend anyone do this unless you have reallllllly tight
> control (permissions) over SCCM and ALL the techs working it know it well.
> All it takes is someone setting that advertisement to "required" and then
> all the computers in your domain will be re-imaged.  Granted there is a
> safety net there with PXE/Boot Media option, but if a computer reboots and
> has PXE enabled, wouldn't it boot to PXE and begin the image installation?
>
>
>
>
>
> My recommendation is to give the lower level technicians access to delete
> machines in certain collections.  SCCM is designed to be used by everyone
> from end-user to the highest tiers of support.  You can lock many things
> down with permissions.  We package the SCCM console and push it to all our
> techs in the IT department.  They have the console, but can only do what
> they have permissions for.
>
>
>
> Another method and maybe a safer one if the above scares you---SCCM 2012
> supports PowerShell commands.  Create a service account with permissions to
> delete objects using the Remove-CMDevice command and script it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Jessie Twaddle <jtwad...@gustavus.edu>
> wrote:
>
> The unknown systems works great for unknown systems, but what do you do
> when SCCM already knows about the computer and the staff who deploy the
> images have no access to SCCM?  Rather then have them contact Sccm admin
> every time they need to reimage, I just use wds to deploy the base image.
> It would be great to use SCCM always.  If anyone has an automated way
> around this issue, please let me know.
>
> Jessie
>
> On Apr 1, 2015 4:33 AM, "Trond Karstensen" <trond.karsten...@skill.no>
> wrote:
>
>  I always advertise to «all systems» pxe & media only, and to all unknown
> computers.
>
> And password protect the TS.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Gilbert
> *Sent:* tirsdag 31. mars 2015 22.29
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm
> object
>
>
>
> Available to all unknown systems is the ticket:
> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn818437.aspx
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Juelich, Adam
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 4:23 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm
> object
>
>
>
> Rule of thumb is to never deploy anything to 'All Systems.'  Unless you're
> into extreme sports or something....
>
>
>    *-----------------------------------------------*
>
> *Adam Juelich*
>
> Pulaski Community School District <http://www.pulaskischools.org>
>
> Client Management Specialist
>
> 920-822-6075
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Rob Glodt <rgl...@samhealth.org> wrote:
>
>  Advertise the task sequence to All Systems, boot media/pxe only.  That’s
> how we’re doing it in the 2012 system we’re setting up now, seems to work
> like a charm.
>
>
>
> Rob Glodt
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Carbone
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:15 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [mssms] Re-imaging computers without deleting sccm object
>
>
>
> We currently need to delete the computer out of SCCM each time we want to
> image a computer. Is there a way where we can image a computer without
> doing this? We want it to stay in SCCM for asset management from another
> system that is pulling from SCCM.
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