Jeroen Smael wrote:
>Alex Wulms wrote:
>>] This way every MSX only needs just one cable with
>>] 2 female and 1 male DB9 connectors
>>This however is very dangerous. Since there are two female
>>connectors on the cable, which both can be plugged into the
>>MSX, you will have the risk that people will plug the wrong
>>one in their MSX. And believe me, if errors like this one
>>can be made, they will be made! Please let not get us in
[snip]
>I fully agree with Alex. My previous mail was perhaps not clear on
>this subject, but the main reason indeed to have different connectors
>(no DB9) on the network side was/is to avoid wrong connections.

Since so many ppl are againt using DB9's (except to plug into the MSX)
I guess I must sway and think of something else as well. (eventho
under loud protest ;-) )

>I suggest we let Patrick 'Patsie' Lina make a choice from the now
>available options:
I feel flattened.. ehm.. flattered :---)

>(1) tulp
>(2) DIN
>(3) microphone connector (I don't know the 'technical' name)

The last one is called a 'Jack' Don't ask me why, it just is :-)

Since the less connectors the better, the first option fails.
We need at least 4 pins per connector (d0,d1,ack,gnd), so I guess
a Jack won't work either. Which leaves us with.... *drumroll*
Door number 2! :-)

Eventho a DIN8 has way too many pins, I guess it will suffice for
our purpose.

  SEND (DIN8 male)            RECV (DIN8 female)

 d0  1 ---------------+  +-------------- 1  d0
 d1  2 -------------+ |  | +------------ 2  d1
ack  3 -----------+ | |  | | +---------- 3  ack
gnd  8 -----------|-|-|--|-|-|--+------- 8  gnd
                  | | |  | | |  |
                  | | |  | | |  |
                  3 7 6  1 2 8  9

                  MSX (DB9 female)

The send/recv - male/female part isn't that hard to
remember. If you don't get that one, you're waaay to
young to hold a soldering iron as well :-)

We prolly all know what a DB9 looks like about now!
When looking at a DIN8, the schematics are like this:

   female           male

   7     6         6     7
  3   8   1       1   8   3
   5     4         4     5
      2               2

So in short:
pin 1 I  D0 -> RECV/fem  pin 1
pin 2 I  D1 -> RECV/fem  pin 2
pin 3 I ACK -> SEND/male pin 3
pin 6 O  D0 -> SEND/male pin 1
pin 7 O  D1 -> SEND/male pin 2
pin 8 O ACK -> RECV/fem  pin 3
pin 9   GND -> BOTH      pin 8 

>Patrick 'Patsie' Lina, make your choice and mail us the connections!
Okay, what did I win? ;-)

I'd better stop now, there are way too many smileys in this
text already...

Greets,

   Patsie


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