At 12:56 19/07/99 +0200, you wrote:
>> >have the guarantee of a full compatibility between different
> > projects and a
> > It's a good idea to standardize the new MSX efforts, it will
>
> Iim sure that Phoenix is something needed for the MSX system, and with
>Phoenix all the programmers will be in contact with hardware developers
>to work together.
Well, it sounds really good, but unfortunately, as I've noticed in
6 years of MSX-freaking over the Net (and 12 years into the MSX-scene), I
don't think it'll be successful.
Why? Reasons below.
>> > But I wonder, how will the Phoenix standard be decided?
>>
>> As I said Phoenix depends on Internet, there is no discussion about this,
>>therefore Phoenix must be decided in Internet, I will contact with Tristan
>>and Funet will have a Phoenix directory, Padial will publish schemas and
>>complete information about the finished projects.
>> The Phoenix web is another important part.
>
>But what about the developers which don't have internet-access??? I know
>Hans van Oranje has, and others might be able to access the internet via
>school or the library, but I don't think they all have internet-access.
That's the 1st point, hard developers who can't access Internet.
2nd point, hard developers who dislikes e-mails.
3rd point, hard developers who doesn't speak English properly.
>> > An alternative to consensus would be voting, in that case
>> > who gets to vote? Anyone who subscribes to a Phoenix mailinglist?
>>
>> This is not neccesary, how many hardware developers are in the world??,
>>maybe with the hand fingers is enough to count them, there are many
>>programmers, but the programmers depends on the hardware developers, so
>>the main characters of Phoenix are the hardware developers:
>>
>> Padial, Ademir, Culla, ESE, Henrik...
>
>I don't agree with that. Software-developers must also have a "vinger in de
>pap", because they are the ones who are going to use it, and they can tell
>which things are useful, which not, and they can give very useful
>suggestions or tips, for example on a feature which makes a certain board a
>little more expensive, but at the same time is of a great help to
>programmers (for example an external interrupt or so).
Why a Phoenix mailing list, if we've a MSX mailing list. I don't
wanna subscribe to another mailing list, only to know if Phoenix is going
well or not.
>> > Another question: what are the starting assumptions for Phoenix?
>>
>> Well, this is certainly complicated, I think Phoenix must assumpt the
>>system hardware developments like Z380, new musics board, new VDP boards...
>> Nowaday we have no problems because there is only a new music board and a
>>new VDP board (I think): Moonsound and GFX9000, but it could be a real
>>problem if somebody makes a new OPL4 incompatible with Moonsound, Phoenix
>>has the responsability in this kind of problems.
>
>Ah, this is very good. In a lot of projects the OPL4 of v9990 is not listed
>or is listed but in an incompatible way... I'm very glad with this...
>relieved.
>By the way, there was some guy (dunno where) developing an OPL3 board!!!
Leonard...
>Aargh! Let us make it MoonSound-compatible and convince this guy to use
>OPL4!!! (which can still be achieved).
Have you noticed how much a Moonsound board costs? Maybe he chose
OPL3 due to the price.
>Oh, by the way, I think a new MSX must have a decent timer of which the
>speed can be set and which can generate an interrupt. This is definately
>useful, in example for JoyNet.
Sure!
>> We know that MSX is a generational standard, theorically MSX-TR is
>compatible
>>with MSX-1, MSX-2 and MSX-2+, MSX 2 with MSX-1...possible new MSX computers
>>have to be compatible with MSX TR, 2+, 2 and 1 obviosly.
>
>Ok, that is perfect.
Hmmm, hope so.
>This mailinglist is, I have to say, quite emulator-less...
>Compare it with news://comp.sys.msx which has a lot of emulator-talk.
Well, I can't read comp.sys.msx, but I think I'm losing nothing...
>~Grauw "Phoenix is a great idea"
Phoenix is a nice idea, but I'm in doubt if everybody (and I mean
EVERYBODY) will support. Sorry, but developing a nice website is easy. The
hard part is to develop a whole new system.
ByE.
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