At 15:19 12-08-99 +0200, you wrote:
>Hello!
>
>More things on the best shoot'em ever made: Salamander... I have the
>English manual in front, so I'll try to answer some questions made a
>long time ago...
Thanks a lot! I'll add to the end my original reply to the message you
replied to (confusing, huh :)). There's the thing about the operation 3
levels' difficulty.
>
>Anyway, in a few days I'll try to put an HTML version of the English
>manual in my homepage. I have a scanner, so if anybody prefers a scan,
>I'll do that, but due to lack of space in my server I prefer to put an
>HTML file... I'll send a message to the list when it's on-line.
If you make a scan, we'd love to get one. We'd most want picture versions,
as big as possible, but of course that means a lot of transferring. If you
could mail straight to us (at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) the
pictures, maybe in a few messages that would be great. HTML versions would
be great too, but pics would be so authentic... :-)
(By the way, if you haven't read previous messages on the subject, I'm talking
about "us" meaning me and a friend of mine who are planning a homepage for
Salamander and are gathering informations...)
>
>Rieks W. Torringa wrote:
>
>> >1. Anything more on Twin/Triple/Arming?
>
[snip]
Thanks!
>
>> >2. Can the Crystal Breeze be found on Lavinia and if yes, where?
>>
>If you have Nemesis 2 in slot 2, on Eioneus or Kierke, at a random hole,
>you can find a message that says that "In Lavinia you have found a
It says "In Latis you have found a Crystal Breeze" if I remember correct.
>I haven't found any difference, except in Kierke (I always choose this
>planet as the last one of operation 3); sometimes, the level goes
>difficult: every enemy I destroy shoots a little bullet to me. When I
>destroy 20 enemies, they shoot 20 little bullets to me. After finishing
>the level, it's hard to imagine I still have force field ... :-(
Look for the original reply on the subject later on...
>
>Once I thought it depends on whether I have Homing Missile active or
>not, but I don't know...
As above.
>
Check the original reply later...
>> By the way, you know that only one
>> level of the three Crush Blow/Leek levels can turn difficult ? It's always
>> the last planet you choose.
>
>No; as said before, I think it depends on anything more than the time
>you take to decide. Allright, the last planet can go difficult, but I'm
>not sure the time is the only reason. If anybody can confirm this,
>please ...
It's in later... but he means (correctly) that it is always the last you
_complete_. So if you choose them wrongly, the third one you play is harder.
But you make take as much time as you want choosing (before the timer runs
out of course).
>
>> >8. Full names of all the weapons/stuff
>
>The manual says:
>
[snip]
Thanks, great info!
>
>Manual doesn't talk about names of monsters.
>
>> >12. Anything special about playing alone and anything you might think is
>> >interesting.
>
>This time I finished the game with the good ending I played alone. I
>think if you plan to finish the game OK, you must play alone, because
>the final monster is SO BIG that there is so little space to move in the
>screen. And you have to be at the
We played it the two of us and we had a strategy, with which you can't die
(unless you're very greedy). The key was for player 1 to go to an upper corner
and player 2 to a lower, the thing is so big, he can't come to the very
corners...
>that are spread across the screen than if there's only one player. It's
>my opinion.
Because of the above, we disagree.
>
>But, of course, during the game there is much more fun with two players
>simultaneously !!!!!!!
Very true. (The other one always stealing all the weapons... ;-)
>
>BTW: has anybody ever used the 'Exchange' mode???
Nope.
>
Okay. Now comes the original reply. (I marked with !!'s the part about the
difficulty of operation 3 levels.)
Sorry for the long message (especially people on the list, who aren't
interested).
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 12 21:16:04 1999
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:06:50 +0300 (EEST)
From: Suni Antti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Rieks W. Torringa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Salamander questions
On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Rieks W. Torringa wrote:
> I received it, but I have been away for a couple of weeks. A friend
No problem. Now I'm changing this again then to private messaging.
>
> >2. Can the Crystal Breeze be found on Lavinia and if yes, where?
> Usually the Crystal Breeze can be found on Kierke. You can obtain
> it only when putting the Nemesis 2 (or Gradius 2) cartridge in the
> second slot. You can find the Crystal Breeze in a hole in which the
> prediction is also hidden sometimes.
Yes, and in a similar fashion it can be found from a prediction-hole on
Eioneus too. Sean Young's page (you know it?) says it can be found on any
of the three levels, but we've found it only on Eioneus and Kierke. Even
if the Crystal Breeze is on some level, the level still has its
predictions on some other "hole". But on Lavinia we've only found one
possible "hole" (just below the downscrolling part, first laser-launcher
at the bottom leaves a hole), and it always contains the prediction. So,
we were thinking if you know of some other "hole" on Lavinia which could
contain the Breeze. One theoretically possible place would be the right
side of the down-scrolling tunnel, but we've never even tried to get there
since the wall-lasers are on the wrong side to be shot at. Maybe they
could be shot with some insidious option-usage, but we haven't tried.
Have you?
> >3. Is it necessary to have an option or a force field to get past the
> >wall-mounted lasers on the down-scrolling part of Lavinia?
>
> If you're very secure, it's possible to get past it. If you've got missiles,
> you can launch them to destroy the lasers. Otherwise, you have to
> fly right above the laser and shoot the cannon. It's difficult, though,
> so you'd better just try getting an option.
Have you done it? :) We tried firing missiles at them, but didn't seem to
get them destroyed. Same result with Ripple. But maybe we were'nt close
enough. Almost immediately we started using options to get through, so
we've not tested other ways a lot.
> >4. How does the difficulty level change depending on your play? (less
> >shooting/less monsters?)
>
> Once there was this story, telling that it depended on the time you took
> for deciding which planet you would go to next (Eioneus/Lavinia/Kierke).
> If this is right or not, I can't tell. Maybe worth the effort to look it up
> in
> the manual.
That we know (I think), from Sean's page and from own experiences, that !!
the right planet to choose is the one with the most enemies visible in the !!
radar. But once when I was flying and recording sounds I therefore tried
to shoot as little as possible (so as not to get the shooting sounds
recorded), and I noticed that on Latis, for example, there appeared only
one of those monsters who usually come in rows of two or three (in the
beginning space) and some waves didn't appear at all. So we were
wondering, have you noticed such, and if so, do you know anything more.
> Nope, as far as I know there's the normal level and the 'hard' level,
> in which enemies transform into bullets coming your way after
> destroying them and in which enemies fire more bullets than usual.
Do they fire more, or only turn to bullets when dying? We noticed the
first but can't be sure of the last (there's quite much action for
counting bullets... :))
> >6. Is there a specific pattern for the movement and bouncing of the
> >creatures found among other places in the blue tunnel of Latis?
>
> They generally just come your way, but the height of their jumps is
> restricted so if you fly high/low enough they can't touch you anyway.
Yes, but is the delay between jumps fixed (seems not) or what. They can't
jump all the time so there has to be some delay, but they don't seem to
jump on regular intervals either. We've had one theory of them jumping
always, when they are directly over or beneath your ship, but we're not
sure. How do they decide when to jump, and to what direction? Well
direction is generally towards player...
> >7. Have you ever completed any of the operation 3 levels in their more
> >difficult mode?
>
> Yes, after completing Eioneus and Kierke, I got the difficult mode of
> Lavinia. I completed it and afterwards also completed Odysseus. There
That's impressive. We almost completed Kierke a few times (got to the
boss) and once got to the pre-boss on Lavinia, but never through. Although
since we learned the pattern of choosing levels, we didn't try the harder
versions...
> was no difference in the ending. By the way, you know that only one
You didn't have X/Crystal Breeze then?
> level of the three Crush Blow/Leek levels can turn difficult ? It's always
> the last planet you choose.
Yes, we know that. But the name Leek is totally new, it is the three
levels of operation 3 then?
> >10. To where does the prediction on Lavinia point? (final boss?)
>
> Never thought about that one, but I don't think so. On Odysseus is also a
> prediction (which is very hard to get, by the way) of which it's likely that
> it points to Metalslave (the final boss - by the way, you know the names
> of the bosses ?).
Can you tell us how to get the prediction from Odysseus? We've never found
it. No, we don't know the names of the bosses. I presume they're in the
manual? We'd love to get them.
>
> >12. Anything special about playing alone and anything you might think is
> >interesting.
>
> I have to answer this one the next time as I'm typing this during my
> break...
Okay..., eagerly waiting :)
And yes, are you now back to your manuals and a scanner? ;-)
We could use scans of just about everything related, but most especially
the manuals. If you have the time and will it would be great...
Antti Suni
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Antti Suni
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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