BiFi wrote:
[/me wrote: ppl write 4 MSX2, 'cause that's where the user base is]
> I thought MSX was out of commerce these days, because this is
> more like commerce.
No, it's like reward for your effort. Get real: you wouldn't program for
MSX if you couldn't show it off to at least one other person :-)
[/me: MSX2+ only offers: more colors & horizontal scroll in HW]
>Using the MSX-standard, yes. So the MSX-MUSIC, built-in Kanji or sometimes
>even DOS2 are ignored.
MSX-MUSIC was included in the 'standard' config you wrote down
(remember: MSX2 + 'FM-PAC' + 'MusciModule'), so that not a real extra
MSX2+ offers. I personally don't see any extra value in using Kanji, which
I can't read anyways. About DOS2: that's not part of the MSX2+ standard,
but you're right ppl could use that a lot more. But then again: *requiring*
DOS2 again makes your user base smaller...
[/me: most games can do without HW hor. scroll and the
2+ screens are a bitch to program]
>Right, but if you've got a game with a smooth horizontal scroll, would you
>prefer the shocky edges at left and right without overlaying sprites (to
>prevent the flashing sprites) or would you like the game to use the
>hardware scroll when V9958 was detected?
Of course I would! And I guess that programmers who write for 2+ will
use this feature: no extra effort...
[Gfx9000: /me: "I'm not a happy owner"]
>Are you an owner who is not happy with his purchase or just someone who
>doesn't have it?
I don't have it :-/ But I doubt I would be happier having one ;-)
>You usually write a program directly for that VDP.
Exactly: and if you have the choice of programming for the 9938 (large
user base) or the V9990 (2 ppl (*)), which one would you choose?
I'd take the good old '38 - not just because I dont' have a V9990
(I do have the tech book somewhere), but because then I'll get more ppl
to use/play my prog/game. Given time, I would even build it so it
woudl use V9990 when present and fall back on standard '38 if not...
(*) Ok - little bit exaggerated ;-)
>At the moment, there are some programming tools (like GBASIC) which enable
>very simple use of Gfx9000 and sometimes even Video9000 digitizing/
>superimposing.
GBASIC is fun for a starter, just like MSX-BASIC. If you want to write
*real* applications/programs you'll want to switch to assember, Pascal
or C and I haven't seen libraries for any of those, yet.
>The problem is IMHO, today's MSX-programmers are or too lazy or too busy
>to do something for the V9990, because they lack the knowledge or the means
>the Gfx9000 for example).
That's the most probable cause, I guess. I recognize this :-)
At the moment I have tons of ideas and half-started MSX projects but
ab-so-lute-ly *no* time to do anything :-(
> Use SCREEN 5 or SCREEN 7 pictures the SCREEN 1 way...
Is that your definition of better graphics? Hm...
> What could be better than that?
512x424 (640x480?) graphics with a 256 color palette - colors in the palette
to choose from (8,8,8)-RGB cube and at least 8 video pages available. Including
hardware PNG (de)coder to speed up loading/saving :-)
Ciao,
Eric
BTW: When's "Bussum"? I'll need some MSX-therapy one of these months...
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