On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 03:58:19AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > But when the ISP's mail gateway is down or is blacklisted because of > > > spammers, the users wouldn't know what to do. > > > > Of course they do. Call their ISP and complain to them to get it > > fixed, or get a new ISP. > > This is a silly answer. Every ISP can have problems one time or > another!
Yeah, and most are very responsive when they do have problems, due to the competetive nature of the ISP business (at least, here in North America). Not only is it not a silly answer, it's the ONLY answer, at least for most home users here. > > In many places, on many providers' networks, there is no other > > option for them anyway, because outgoing mail that isn't to their > > ISP's gateway will be blocked. > > An ISP is there to provide full, unfiltered Internet access. If the > user has chosen as ISP that blocks some ports, that's his problem. You'd better stay in Europe, my friend... ;-) ALL major providers here block SMTP, most teir II providers do, and the only service that's available in most places that doesn't have it blocked is 3x-5x more expensive than what most people are willing to pay for internet service. You can argue until you're blue in the face that your ISP should be what you described, but unless you're in a lucky region with an unusually permissive ISP, you ain't gettin' it. The only option for this that's affordable is remote domain hosting on virtual hardware... but that requires you to be 100% your own sysadmin. That happens to be what I use, but for most mail users, that's not a realistic option... and it's a cost that's in addition to whatever internet service you have. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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