On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Richard Collings <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Agile people do like their little aphorisms.  :-)
>

Thanks we like to think we're witty too.

>
> However, I am intrigued - how do you plan?   Somebody says to you,  'when
> can you get this done by?' how do you work it out?
>

Burn down charts and a cone of uncertainity - usually +/- 30%.

Key points:
- we don't track task hours, we track stories (sometimes we use sizes but
just relative numbers not absolute i.e. no days)
- we use the number of stories completed in a week (or a day if need be) as
velocity.
- we average the last three weeks (or iterations worth) to tell us how much
we're getting done on average.
- we use that to see how long it will take to get through the customer
requirements (aka the backlog)
- finally we use a cone of uncertainity that narrows as we get closer to
being done (can't find a good picture right now).

One approach with a lot of detail:
http://alistair.cockburn.us/Earned-value+and+burn+charts

Much more detail another time. I teach a three day course in Agile Software
Development - Planning and Estimation is probably a half day.


> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mark Levison
> *Sent:* 12 March 2009 4:50 p
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [MLO] Re: Feature Request: gant view.
>
>  What benefit would you (and the rest of us) derive from a Gnatt view?
>
> Part of what I do as an Agile Coach is wean people from their addiction to
> MS Project and Gnatt views. I usually point out that Gnatt never tells you
> when you will be done, only the first moment you won't be done.
>
> Cheers
> Mark
>
>
> On 3/11/09, mlo addict <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I love using mlo but am missing a gantt view. I would like to request
>> a gantt view like proj...@hand has. See
>> http://www.natara.com/ProjectAtHand2/ScreenShots.cfm
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> Recent Entries: Agile/Scrum Smells:
>> http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2008/06/agilescrum-smells.html
>> Agile Games for Making Retrospectives Interesting:
>> http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2008/10/agile-games-for-making-retrospectives-interesting.html>>
>>


-- 
Cheers
Mark Levison
Blog: http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/
Recent Entries: Agile/Scrum Smells:
http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2008/06/agilescrum-smells.html
Agile Games for Making Retrospectives Interesting:
http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2008/10/agile-games-for-making-retrospectives-interesting.html

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