Hello Andrey,

I would like to see a timer that could be used to measure how much
time is used on a task. It would basically need five features for
each
task:

Start timer
Stop timer
Time elapsed
Time accumulated for the task
Ability to edit the time (for the those instances when one forgets to
turn the time on or off)


and a fifth feature for the project level:


Time accumulated for the project (accumulating time on all subtasks)


I've used another software on my mobile phone that did this, and it's
really handy for following up and learning - did I use what I thought
I would use in terms of time? I also use it to bill clients. Since
effort is estimated and also used to set the priorities in the todo
list it would seem natural to have the timing tool as part of MLO to
increase accuracy in the planning phase.

Searching for "time," this subject has been raised many times over the
years, and always attracts a following. I'm also encourged to see Time
Tracking in your "Features Plan" 
http://www.mylifeorganized.net/products/my-life-organized/features-plan.htm
as item #F107 under "3 - Next versions (10 item(s))", and that this
has normal priority. To me your software would be worth more with the
time tracking feature.

•#F107 Time spent measurement and transfer to the time spent field -
New How hard : 1 - Medium
How useful : 1 - useful
Priority : 3 - normal
Description

time spent measurement and transfer to the time spent field (like in
MasterList Professional for example)
Tom
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...I would especially like to be able to track my
"time on task" for each task, and some kind of overview of how I
actually
have spent my time on tasks from day to day.

Richard Musselwhite

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More info on TimePanic
http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized/browse_thread/thread/73f7308f00c34a70



On 25 Maj, 06:41, Andrey <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for thoughtful post, JeffH. I am still thinking how to 
> includetimetrackinginto MLO. Just do not want to make the application
> "heavy" because of this feature.
> I will use this information when/if design the feature.
>
> Andrey.
>
> On May 16, 3:23 pm, JeffH <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Using MLO to plan and execute projects and tasks is fantastic. Having
> > to use a separate app to tracktimespent is frustrating, involving
> > duplicate data entry, inconsistencies, etc. I believetimetracking
> > could be integrated into MLO cleanly and unobtrusively, so as not to
> > bother those who don't want or need it. I recently looked at over a
> > dozentime-trackingapps, listed below, with brief comments. First,
> > some design ideas. Throughout, when I say project, I mean any non-leaf
> > node of the hierarchy.
>
> > - Maintain a list of task or activity types (eg Administration,
> > Coding, Maintenance, Documentation, etc.)
>
> > - Maintain a list of clients.
>
> > - Maintain a log of activities. Each entry includes a start date/time,
> > end date/time, associated task id. Give the task log a separate tab
> > next to Task Notes and Properties. By default, show the current date.
> > Allow filtering by date; maybe show a calendar or drop-down calendar.
>
> > - Provide a timer to accumulatetimeto a task. Select the task, right
> > click, and start the timer. Maintain a MRU list of tasks; show on
> > right-clicking the tray icon.
>
> > - Provide a properties pane (or tab?) to capture expenses. Associate
> > each expense with a project. Capture date, amount, vendor,
> > description, paid (bool).
>
> > - Provide reporting options: Summary by date (today, week, month),
> > Detail by date, Summary by project, detail by project, projects by
> > client (detail/summary, Client billing (paid, unpaid, all), Activity
> > pertimeunit (detail/summary) (eg this week 20 hours coding, 10.5
> > hours admin, etc.), ...
>
> > - Don't need detailed financial accounting of billing.
>
> > Products I reviewed:
>
> > Maybe
> > - EasyTimeTracking- sluggish ui, but pretty functional. Allows
> > customized statuses for projects and tasks; task categories; does
> > invoicing. Tray window is informative but a intrusuve.
>
> > - TimelessTime& Expense - Seems to have everything, but pretty
> > awkward. Version 3 coming soon, free upgrade, Allows expensetracking.
> > UI seems sluggish here too. Tray control but no window.
>
> > Almost
> > - AllNeticWorkingTimeTracker: very clean ui. has tray app for start/
> > stop. Doesn't have task categories (activities). Reporting not great.
>
> > - TimePanic - interesting. activity centric. Allows projects +
> > subprojects; no expense support;
>
> > Definitely not
> > - FruitFul
>
> > - OfficeTime- has projects and categories, but no tasks. Multiple
> > windows confusing.
>
> > - ResponsiveTimeLogger - pretty rich feature set. Expensive. Tray
> > app doesn't allow task switching (per screen shot).
>
> > - CompleteTimeTracking- kind of cool, compact ui; no activities;
>
> > -TimeShadow
>
> > -TimeTracker
>
> > - ya Timer -http://www.nbdtech.com/yaTimer/Help/-kind of cool, no
> > task notes
>
> > - WHID - sourceforge
>
> > - TimeSheets MTS - pretty heavy duty - requires manually entered
> > project and task ids -
>
> > - Fanurio -http://www.fanuriotimetracking.com/-Java based. no tasks
>
> > That just scratches the surface. There are TONS of tools out there,
> > none with an MLO's highly tuned look and feel, most very awkward,
> > heavy, sluggish. AllNetic comes closest, but lacks functionality. I
> > would easily fork over more $ for an integrated MLO implementation.
>
> > Anybody else?- Dölj citerad text -
>
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