Richard,

What I was suggesting was that the dialog box that pops up again and again
really is a nuisance and should either be removed or made optional (via a
"Don't show this again" checkbox). I imagine (and Wesley's original message
confirms) that this dialog is also displayed in situations other than
searching a filtered list.

Showing a modal dialog box every time a search result is selected in the
list, and thereby interrupting the user's flow when viewing the task list -
this, IMO, is the badly designed part.

In support of my contention, please see "About Face 2.0: The Essentials of
Interaction Design" by Alan Cooper, chapter "Stopping the Proceedings", pp.
138-139. The case in MLO may not be as clear-cut as the examples given there
(e.g. showing a "File deleted" dialog after deleting a file), but it comes
very close, and its effect on the user is exactly the same: annoyance at
being needlessly interrupted.

The drop-down you mention does indeed help in this specific case. It is
quite unobtrusive, so thank you :)

marek



On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 18:40, Richard Collings <[email protected]> wrote:

> If I have understood the underlying requirement, you want to search for
> tasks and only find those that are not completed?
>
>
>
> If so, there is a not very clear drop down above the Search results on the
> left hand side where you can choose ‘All except completed’ which will then
> only show uncompleted tasks in the search results.
>
>
>
> Does this work for you?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Marek Jedlinski
> *Sent:* 03 June 2011 11:07 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [MLO] Re: How to get around the "Task not found in current
> outline view. Show all tasks in outline and try to find the task again?"
> message
>
>
>
> Hi Andrey,
>
> I want to second Wesley's request. The steps are different in my case, but
> the dialog box is the same:
>
> 1. Make sure "Hide completed tasks" is checked. (Completed tasks should be
> hidden by now.)
> 2. Execute a search such that the search string appears in at least one of
> the completed tasks.
> 3. Click a completed task in the search results. The following dialog box
> is displayed:
>
> ---------------------------
> Confirm - MyLife Organized
> ---------------------------
> Task not found in current outline view. Show all tasks in outline and try
> to find the task again?
> ---------------------------
> Yes   No
> ---------------------------
>
> I have a large number of tasks, with a lot of them completed. I almost
> always view the list as filtered (completed tasks hidden), As a result, this
> dialog box tends to show up very often during my searches.
>
> I believe the assumption behind it is incorrect - namely, that I want to
> see the completed tasks in the search results, and so I should be warned
> when they are hidden.  In reality it's the opposite: if I'm searching a
> filtered list, I am not interested in tasks that do not match the filter.
> But the dialog box pops up every time and is really quite annoying.
>
> And the worst thing about it is that if I click "No" in this dialog box, it
> will pop up *again* when I select the next task in the search results.
> This makes the list of search results practically unusable until I give up
> and click "Yes" to un-filter the list. (But I don't want to un-filter the
> list! I want to keep showing only incomplete tasks.)
>
> Such notifications are best implemented as non-modal (as a status bar
> message, for example), so that they do not stop the user's workflow. Or, the
> dialog could have a "don't show this again" checkbox, which I would check
> and never have to see it again.
>
> Side note: as a Windows application, MLO is somewhat odd in that it does
> not make any use of the status bar at all. I'd love to see some brief
> statistics there, for example (completed/incompleted task counts, etc.). I
> imagine it could also be used to display notifications in cases like the
> above in a non-intrusive way that does not block what I'm doing.
>
> Thanks so much for considering this request.
> marek
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 08:18, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> This message is shown if you are trying to jump to a task which is
> hidden due to your current view settings or hide completed tasks
> settings.
> It is a warning that the task is not found in current view and the
> view will be changed (to not surprise user)
>
> Please provide exact steps where you see this message and you think it
> should be removed.
>
> Andrey.
>
> On May 11, 4:25 pm, Michael Clayton
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have been trying to apply flags to various tasks in Outline View. I
> > get the message in a dialog box every so often and I don't know how to
> > stop it from going about my business.
> >
> > I would appreciate any help - I'm new to MLO,
> >
> > Thank you
>
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