For those are not familiar with Trello, here is a useful video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7najSDZcn-U To summarise my recommendation, in MLO you can create any number of boards (which would be implemented by a new feature: Context Lists) with each board being made up of any number of lists (a list equates to a context). To set up a Context List (in Trello: Board), there would be a dialog box which would allow you to choose and order an collection of contexts (in Trello: List) In setting up a Grouped by View, there would be an additional option, Group by Context List. This would create a view consisting of the Contexts specified by the List. In the first instance, this would just be like a nomal view. The only difference would be that when you drag items from one group heading to another, MLO would automatically remove it from the old context and assign it to the new context (ie: the contexts in a a list are mutually exclusive - so irrespective of how a context is assigned, MLO would check whether the new context is an a list and then check whether it was assigned to any other contexts that are also in the list and remove it). This would provide the same functionality as that outlined by Dwight but allow you to have multiple lists with different orders for each list - and as indicated allow people to set up their own Kanban boards in MLO. At some later stage, MLO could implement a 'Board view' which presents tasks as cards' and allow people to move items by dragging cards. Examples of lists might include:
- A Kanban board: with contexts: To Do, Doing, Done - A Week Planner: with contexts: Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri - A Prioritisation board: with contexts: Critical, Urgent, High, Medium, Low - etc I think this would be a brilliant new feature which would attract a lot of new customers as it allows MLO to use a new 'buzzword' in its marketing. Richard On Friday, 25 October 2013 16:33:01 UTC+1, Richard C wrote: > I am strongly in favour of doing something but I am afraid I am not keen > on this idea of having some sort of context hierarchy. (if I have > understood the proposition correctly - I have limited time to read all the > postings). I would argue strongly in favour of my Context List based > approach - see here for details: > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/tLufHVry73g/vny44wRU2B4J > > or something similar where you can defined an ordered set of mutually > exclusive contexts which then form the grouping. When you assign something > to one of these contexts, it automatically removes any other contexts in > the group. > > This gives you a 'quasi-list' capability which could be further enhanced > by laying an optional Trello like interface on top so that you can drag and > drop tasks between diferent named lists. > > I have a very powerful argument in favour of this approach - it is the > word: KANBAN. > > This is very much 'flavour of the year' (or years) and would allow MLO to > be targeted at the KANBAN community - which has a major and growing > following. "The only product that allows you do GtD and Kanban at the > same time" "The only product that allows you to build outlines and do > KANBAN at the same time" - the possibilities are endless. > > I rest my case, m'Lud (see here for explanation of this phrase: > http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhatsIRestMyCaseSMeaning/vkkrr/post.htm) > > > Richard > > On Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:33:23 UTC+1, Lisa S wrote: > >> I am strongly in favor of the features discussed here, and I think your >> proposal covers most of it. >> >> Two comments: >> ONE:UI for determining sort: It seems odd to have two completely >> different UIs for manage tasks and manage flags. The manage flags dialog >> doesn't allow clicking on the Flag name (perhaps this is only for me? Since >> I've rearranged my flags manually). I think it would be confusing to click >> on a "sort by" column and change a static behavior throughout MLO. I'm used >> to seeing "click on column" to only effect the display, never behavior / >> static list position, but I'm not a UI gal currently :) I don't remember >> having any problems understanding this interface, and I think it could be >> copied for Contexts. Then, dragging tasks around would set their order. >> SUGGESTION: Merge the sort functionality from "Manage Flags" look and >> feel, into Manage Contexts. There could be a new menu in the Manage >> Contexts box, similar to "Sort Tasks" in the Outline, that confirms >> re-ordering the sort. Menu: "Sort Contacts ....<options>" --> results: "Are >> you sure you want to reorder your Contexts alphabetically? This will reset >> your current sort order." >> >> TWO:Selecting Contexts on tasks: (Eventually) To reduce confusion about >> contexts throughout MLO, should Context sort order be a static property on >> the Context, as it is (I think) for flags? Ie, used in the Context >> selection popup, etc when you want to change the context for a task?. >> (Though then, people are going to be upset that it is not on mobile >> platforms...) >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Dwight Arthur <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Here's a recap of the discussions in this thread. If anyone has >>> something to say or to add, or would have summarized it differently please >>> say so no later than end of day Saturday October 26. In lieu of any further >>> discussion items my next step would be to revise the existing JIRA item for >>> consistency with this discussion. >>> >>> When an active task has more than one context defined the task will >>> appear in multiple places of a view that's grouped by context. It will >>> appear once under each context that has been defined to the task. This >>> presents a distorted picture of the number of opened tasks and can >>> interfere with the user's orderly management of tasks. Some but not all >>> users wish for an ability to cause such tasks to appear only once. Each >>> user has distinct preferences regarding which of the multiple contexts on a >>> task should be chosen for display of the task. Therefore, there is a need >>> for some method of defining a hierarchy of needs.This is combined with a >>> separate request for a way to determine the order in which contexts appear >>> in a group-by-context view to produce the following recommendation: >>> >>> 1. When defining group-by options for an MLO view, when grouping by >>> context in addition to ascending and descending there should be a third >>> option, user-defined. >>> >>> 2. The Manage Context popup has a triangle next to the word "context" in >>> the header. when the triangle points up the contexts are sorted in >>> ascending order. When the triangle is clicked it moves to point downward, >>> and the contexts are re-sorted in descending order. There needs to be a >>> third value for user defined. When this value is selected, users whould be >>> able to re-sort the contexts, either by dragging context entries and >>> dropping them into the desired order, or by using move-up and move-down >>> buttons >>> >>> 3. When displaying a view in which entries are sorted by or grouped by >>> context, the contexts should appear in the order in which they appear in >>> the Manage Contexts popup. >>> >>> 4. When group by context is selected, provide another new option, "items >>> with multiple contexts appear only once". If enabled, each item will appear >>> no more than once; For an item with multiple contexts, the context which >>> appears first(highest) in the view will be where the task appears. >>> >>> Please comment on this proposal. Lack of comment on your part will be >>> taken to mean that you are not interested, so if you want to see this >>> happen please add your comment here. >>> -Dwight >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/b7ce2fd3-7e8b-4e05-8be1-2063fe5a6c32%40googlegroups.com >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lisa >> >> ------------------------------ >> Lisa Stroyan, mailto: [email protected] >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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