PS: There are over a million users of Trello - some of these will be looking for something more sophisticated for their own personal use but which allows them to implement the Kanban lists/cards metaphor.
On Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:56:42 UTC+1, Richard C wrote: > For those are not familiar with Trello, here is a useful video: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7najSDZcn-U > > > To summarise my recommendation, in MLO you can create any number of > boards (which would be implemented by a new feature: Context Lists) with > each board being made up of any number of lists (a list equates to a > context). > > To set up a Context List (in Trello: Board), there would be a dialog box > which would allow you to choose and order an collection of contexts (in > Trello: List) > > In setting up a Grouped by View, there would be an additional option, > Group by Context List. This would create a view consisting of the > Contexts specified by the List. In the first instance, this would just > be like a nomal view. The only difference would be that when you drag > items from one group heading to another, MLO would automatically remove it > from the old context and assign it to the new context (ie: the contexts in > a a list are mutually exclusive - so irrespective of how a context is > assigned, MLO would check whether the new context is an a list and then > check whether it was assigned to any other contexts that are also in the > list and remove it). > > This would provide the same functionality as that outlined by Dwight but > allow you to have multiple lists with different orders for each list - and > as indicated allow people to set up their own Kanban boards in MLO. > > At some later stage, MLO could implement a 'Board view' which presents > tasks as cards' and allow people to move items by dragging cards. > > Examples of lists might include: > > - A Kanban board: with contexts: To Do, Doing, Done > - A Week Planner: with contexts: Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri > - A Prioritisation board: with contexts: Critical, Urgent, High, > Medium, Low > - etc > > I think this would be a brilliant new feature which would attract a lot of > new customers as it allows MLO to use a new 'buzzword' in its marketing. > > Richard > > > > > > On Friday, 25 October 2013 16:33:01 UTC+1, Richard C wrote: > >> I am strongly in favour of doing something but I am afraid I am not keen >> on this idea of having some sort of context hierarchy. (if I have >> understood the proposition correctly - I have limited time to read all the >> postings). I would argue strongly in favour of my Context List based >> approach - see here for details: >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/tLufHVry73g/vny44wRU2B4J >> >> or something similar where you can defined an ordered set of mutually >> exclusive contexts which then form the grouping. When you assign something >> to one of these contexts, it automatically removes any other contexts in >> the group. >> >> This gives you a 'quasi-list' capability which could be further enhanced >> by laying an optional Trello like interface on top so that you can drag and >> drop tasks between diferent named lists. >> >> I have a very powerful argument in favour of this approach - it is the >> word: KANBAN. >> >> This is very much 'flavour of the year' (or years) and would allow MLO to >> be targeted at the KANBAN community - which has a major and growing >> following. "The only product that allows you do GtD and Kanban at the >> same time" "The only product that allows you to build outlines and do >> KANBAN at the same time" - the possibilities are endless. >> >> I rest my case, m'Lud (see here for explanation of this phrase: >> http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhatsIRestMyCaseSMeaning/vkkrr/post.htm) >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> On Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:33:23 UTC+1, Lisa S wrote: >> >>> I am strongly in favor of the features discussed here, and I think your >>> proposal covers most of it. >>> >>> Two comments: >>> ONE:UI for determining sort: It seems odd to have two completely >>> different UIs for manage tasks and manage flags. The manage flags dialog >>> doesn't allow clicking on the Flag name (perhaps this is only for me? Since >>> I've rearranged my flags manually). I think it would be confusing to click >>> on a "sort by" column and change a static behavior throughout MLO. I'm used >>> to seeing "click on column" to only effect the display, never behavior / >>> static list position, but I'm not a UI gal currently :) I don't remember >>> having any problems understanding this interface, and I think it could be >>> copied for Contexts. Then, dragging tasks around would set their order. >>> SUGGESTION: Merge the sort functionality from "Manage Flags" look and >>> feel, into Manage Contexts. There could be a new menu in the Manage >>> Contexts box, similar to "Sort Tasks" in the Outline, that confirms >>> re-ordering the sort. Menu: "Sort Contacts ....<options>" --> results: "Are >>> you sure you want to reorder your Contexts alphabetically? This will reset >>> your current sort order." >>> >>> TWO:Selecting Contexts on tasks: (Eventually) To reduce confusion about >>> contexts throughout MLO, should Context sort order be a static property on >>> the Context, as it is (I think) for flags? Ie, used in the Context >>> selection popup, etc when you want to change the context for a task?. >>> (Though then, people are going to be upset that it is not on mobile >>> platforms...) >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Dwight Arthur <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Here's a recap of the discussions in this thread. If anyone has >>>> something to say or to add, or would have summarized it differently please >>>> say so no later than end of day Saturday October 26. In lieu of any >>>> further >>>> discussion items my next step would be to revise the existing JIRA item >>>> for >>>> consistency with this discussion. >>>> >>>> When an active task has more than one context defined the task will >>>> appear in multiple places of a view that's grouped by context. It will >>>> appear once under each context that has been defined to the task. This >>>> presents a distorted picture of the number of opened tasks and can >>>> interfere with the user's orderly management of tasks. Some but not all >>>> users wish for an ability to cause such tasks to appear only once. Each >>>> user has distinct preferences regarding which of the multiple contexts on >>>> a >>>> task should be chosen for display of the task. Therefore, there is a need >>>> for some method of defining a hierarchy of needs.This is combined with a >>>> separate request for a way to determine the order in which contexts appear >>>> in a group-by-context view to produce the following recommendation: >>>> >>>> 1. When defining group-by options for an MLO view, when grouping by >>>> context in addition to ascending and descending there should be a third >>>> option, user-defined. >>>> >>>> 2. The Manage Context popup has a triangle next to the word "context" >>>> in the header. when the triangle points up the contexts are sorted in >>>> ascending order. When the triangle is clicked it moves to point downward, >>>> and the contexts are re-sorted in descending order. There needs to be a >>>> third value for user defined. When this value is selected, users whould be >>>> able to re-sort the contexts, either by dragging context entries and >>>> dropping them into the desired order, or by using move-up and move-down >>>> buttons >>>> >>>> 3. When displaying a view in which entries are sorted by or grouped by >>>> context, the contexts should appear in the order in which they appear in >>>> the Manage Contexts popup. >>>> >>>> 4. When group by context is selected, provide another new option, >>>> "items with multiple contexts appear only once". If enabled, each item >>>> will >>>> appear no more than once; For an item with multiple contexts, the context >>>> which appears first(highest) in the view will be where the task appears. >>>> >>>> Please comment on this proposal. Lack of comment on your part will be >>>> taken to mean that you are not interested, so if you want to see this >>>> happen please add your comment here. >>>> -Dwight >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/b7ce2fd3-7e8b-4e05-8be1-2063fe5a6c32%40googlegroups.com >>>> . >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lisa >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Lisa Stroyan, mailto: [email protected] >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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