First off, congratulations.

 

Secondly, I was getting all ready to write you a treatise on computed-score, 
which seemed to have been inoperative for you, but now it seems to be working. 
Could you share what changed to make computed-score work for you?

 

Third, the reason that empty projects are not showing is your parent filter. 
I’m not really sure why it works this way, my guess is that the empty projects 
cannot get through the filter on account of not having a parent. Unlike the 
next action tasks under the non-empty projects, each of which obviously has a 
parent. Anyhow, eliminating the parent filter brings back the empty projects 
and also any unattached tasks that may be floating about at the root, but also 
brings back folders. I can’t determine any way to drop the folders out of the 
view while keeping empty projects and orphan tasks. Maybe you can find some 
other way, like giving all of the folders a low importance to drive them to the 
bottom of the view.

 

Finally, not that I will ever use it, but turning a single task into a 
subproject as a way to force it to be a next action seems to be a brilliant 
hack.

 

And even more finally, you made several references to using the program in 
anger. I had no clue as to the meaning of the phrase and I asked on another 
forum and just got some other puzzled responses. It seemed to indicate that you 
were just an unusually hostile person, and proud of it. Then I found a post 
somewhere saying that it’s the opposite of “for show”, perhaps similar to the 
concept “in real life”. Hmmm…

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 10:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MLO] Re: View showing Next Action with Project, sorted by Comp Score 
... SUCCESS !

 

I spoke too soon. Drat !!! There is a problem. 

Because the View is based on an Actions's Project's 'priority' (i.e Urgency & 
Importance), it doesn't know what to do with Actions with no parent (Projects) 
!  No does it know what to do with Projects with no Actions. And both disappear 
from view.  :^(

So there needs to be in IF in the logic. i.e. If an Action hasn't got a 
Project, then use its own 'priority'. And if a Project hasnt got a live Action 
still show itself.

 

Any suggestions? (other than give up trying to use Project priority...)
 
J


On Thursday, December 4, 2014 2:44:59 AM UTC, John Smith wrote:

 

Hi 


I rather chuffed with this.

 

My other threads got confused, so let's start this again


BACKGROUND RE-CAP:

I am been trying to implement GTD on MLO. And because David Allen suggests that 
we have (in practice) quite so many 'Projects' and because in GTD method you 
need to create a Next Action for every one of your Projects, due to the large 
number of Next Actions (often between 60 and 120 at once) that you are likely 
to have running in parallel... due to these large numbers at once, choosing 
what to do next - i.e. establishing priority of actions - becomes hard. 

Yes, Weekly Reviews are crucial. Yes Daily Reviews are crucial (plus quick 
scans more than once a day if possible). And yes, using Context to tell you 
what you can do next 'right now'' is also a helpful way to cut down the number 
of Next Actions you are likely to be faced with at once.

 

HOWEVER, with such a large number of Next Actions any way you do it, you need 
to be 'on top of' a LOT of Projects at once, and I find it extremely easy to 
find myself NOT doing the things that my brain has told me several times are 
rather more Important and/or Urgent, than just ticking off easy stuff off that 
happens to be in front of me.  

To put this more strongly, with what I had until today it was far too easy to 
miss important/urgent (i.e. high priority) stuff, which can easily be a total 
disaster!

Secondly I also get frustrated if the importance and urgency is held only at 
the Action level, because every time you tick off a Next Action, you are liable 
find you need to enter that Importance & Urgency all over again. And when up 
against the clock this simply may not happen! The truth for me at least, is 
that mostly it's the priority of completing Project itself that I need to keep 
on top of, rather than that of individual actions.

THE MISSION:
For the above reasons I wanted to be able to create a single view that showed:


a) The one 'Next Action' for each live project


b) To show me & allow me to edit the Importance & Urgency of the project to 
which each action belongs


c) To not show the folders (as they get in the way)


d) To also sort the entire view into priority order using Importance + Urgency 
of the Projects, so that the higher priority items are visible at the top of 
the page.

 

f) To be able to *adjust* the Importance and Urgency in real time on the same 
screen and thereby change the sort order in real time. This means that the 
priorities can then to be to some extent as relative priorities (i.e. what is 
more high  or low priority compared to what else) as well as being absolute 
values.

THE SOLUTION

After a several false starts and help from several directions (notably from 
Dwight and pottster) I think I this newbie here, may have cracked the problem. 
So I created a new View from scratch and I then did the following filter 
settings:
Filter > General > "Show Actions: Next Actions"
Filter > General > "Show Hierarchy: Yes"
Filter > General > Include Parents - ticked
Filter > General > Set parent filter to: "IsProject"

Filter > Group & Sort > Advanced un-ticked
Filter > Group & Sort > Group by > (none)
Filter > Group & Sort > Sort > Computed-Score [descending]

I then opened up the columns for Importance and for Urgency (plus Context for 
good measure) and save the view.

After all this sweat it is now semi-miraculous to see it working!

- A bonus is that you can hit F6 to just see all the projects, nicely sorted by 
a fusion (mostly) of Importance and Urgency. And F7 of course brings back all 
the Next Actions.

- Another surprise is that it doesn't blow up with multi-level projects. When 
you hit F7 the project structure, complete with Next Actions appears all nicely 
indented. 

- Another bonus I discovered is that you can 'force' the addition of individual 
Actions into view if required, simply by ticking the Project button on the 
additional Action you want. 

 

- A nice surprise (to me) is that if you double click on an action, you are 
taken to the main Outline view to see all the other sibling Actions for the 
project... and double clicking again takes me back again. (Obviously you need 
to set up the new Workspace (i.e. tab) to sync selections for this to work. 
[clue right-click on tab name].

- What is also great is that the Importance and Urgency columns automatically 
change their visual 'markup' (ie. colour/boldness) depending on their value. 
This make the thing more visual, with bright bold red for the supplier 
important/urgent stuff etc.

- I also like being able to do Alt/H to flag stuff up visually that is dead 
urgent too (in my case making that text go onto a bright yellow background).

- But the best fun of all is twiddling with the Imporance and Urgency of a 
project and seeing the project instantly fly up and down my list of priorities 
depending on what values I put in.  

BRILLIANT !   :^))

No doubt something will go wrong or like a fool I will decide I need something 
different, but for now I'm basking in glory and am firmly chalking this up as a 
"rare victory" over technology !

Thanks chaps  

J







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