I don't think a separate forum for new users is a good idea. Based on my experience of other (too many) forums I think a few additional pinned threads here could be useful though. Namely, list of resources for new users, faq's, tips & tricks, and forum rules & guidelines. In terms of interaction with new users, my view is that, far and away the most effective tool, is the webinar. This is used very successfully by a number of software companies who produce "full featured" products with a steep learning curve. Recordings of these webinars are a further permanently available resource.
On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 17:06:12 UTC, John Smith wrote: > > > > > Wait for an okay from the developers for any idea like > Yes, agreed. This is exactly what I am doing. Hence I started this thread. > > > > What's "clear" to you is not at all clear to many of us who have > > actually been here doing this for years. > > What irony! With huge respect, I think part of the problem is the fact > that many of HAVE been doing so for many years is specifically part of the > problem(!) i.e. You are no longer new users. And as such it is hard for you > to understand what it is like to be a new user - mainly because that was > many years ago(!) > > The case that I am presenting is that as can be seen by my footprints new > user and expert users have very different requirements. So different that > it would be of merit to physically separate the discussions. This is after > all what larger communities already do. > > > ...create more discord. > The case I am making is that if there was a place where new users could > 'run riot' with lots chat, albeit necessarily naive often poorly > thought-through chat, about how MLO works... (but seeking some hints and > tips from anyone who wished to help), and for the new users to be able to > so without treading on anyone else's toes amongst the MLO experts and > 'old-timers'... that this would help AVOID discord rather than create it. > > This would for example allow expert user to opt IN to multiple emails from > the experts area (presumably the existing group) so that they can be > alerted about and participate in more thoughtful discussions... And > simultaneously to opt OUT of any noise and chatter from new users. > > Are there any new users here who think a group for new users is a BAD idea? > > > > On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:26:56 PM UTC, Lisa S wrote: >> >> I'm going to put on my volunteer moderator hat, given to me the >> developer, and officially ask that you don't create any separate list >> about MLO right now. Wait for an okay from the developers for any idea like >> this before you jump in and mix things up and frankly, create more discord. >> This is their list, set up for peer support and discussion. If you create >> another list I believe it risks fracturing the community we have here. >> >> What's "clear" to you is not at all clear to many of us who have actually >> been here doing this for years. >> >> It's time to get back to talking about how to use the features we already >> have, IMNSHO. >> Hello >> >> It is clear that new users and long-time users have very different >> requirements. >> >> I think it's important for the long-time users of MLO to have a place >> where they can have in depth, carefully considered conversation, normally >> having read the relevant parts of the manual about the extremely complex >> system (or should I say 'platform'? ;^) ) that his MLO. And to be able to >> do so without distracting noise & chatter from new users. >> >> As a new user I would like a place where I can have a very different, >> much more informal sort of conversation. When I first moved to MLO I wanted >> to be able to spray out at least 1 at least one question every half hour of >> using the system. But I did not want to irritate the experts during the >> process. I do NOT expect to have all my questions answered. I want >> something more like a chat room or Twitter, where you tweet out to the >> universe and you may or may not get a direct message back, depending on >> whether or not anyone else is listening (i.e. following *and* reading). I >> also want to be able to retract or edit my questions if I discover answer >> to my question or have the misspelled something before anyone got to answer >> my question. >> >> Possible solutions: >> >> 1. Another Google Group. >> It's quite easy to start another Google Group called say >> "MyLifeOrganised.new.users" >> On the down side editing posts appears to be impossible (??) >> >> 2. Google+ >> Perhaps a more modern solution? >> (Although I have never used it seriously) >> >> 3. A Free Hosted Forum >> e.g. >> - https://www.proboards.com/free-forum-features >> - http://www.lefora.com/ >> - ?? >> >> >> Any thoughts/other suggestions? >> >> If nobody stops me in the first instance I will probably just start new >> Google Group as a experiment, but with the clear understanding that we >> decide to delete the whole group if unsuccessful and/or anyone has a better >> idea. >> >> J >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MyLifeOrganized" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/7b62a657-9448-468b-b1d0-fad0765faf6c%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/7b62a657-9448-468b-b1d0-fad0765faf6c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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