On a long car journey today I started telling a highly computer literate
scientific friend about my latest discovery to help me manage time. And one
of the first things he said was "nobody reads manuals anymore."

And a bit later "complex things should be  obvious and easy to use
immediately ,  but the complexity should be there when you need it" .

Go figure!
On 11 Dec 2014 16:22, "Saumil Vyas" <[email protected]> wrote:

> John,
>
> I completely agree with you and I had posted my frustration about one year
> ago on this forum.
>
> What I understand is the people already are using MLO have come up with
> their own systems that works for each of them. It is very hard for them to
> share it in system as a whole. This is not an offense, just an observation.
> Most of them will solve smaller problem at hand and move on. For bigger
> view, they will either say use the template or go figure out yourself.
>
> The new user group part:
> MLO actually has multiple groups within this Google Groups, i.e.
> MyLifeOrganized <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mylifeorganized>
> , MyLifeOrganized for Android
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mlo-android>, etc. Well they
> have a lot of overlapping features, still separate from each other.
>
> Why don't they add one more "MLO Newbies", right here.
>
> The owners/developers need to step up and hire/pay Lisa or Dwight or
> whoever to build a "Work flow chart". That would help a lot.
>
> My 2 cents, who cares anyway.
>
> On Monday, December 8, 2014 9:03:49 AM UTC-5, John Smith wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> It is clear that new users and long-time users have very different
>> requirements.
>>
>> I think it's important for the long-time users of MLO to have a place
>> where they can have in depth, carefully considered conversation, normally
>> having read the relevant parts of the manual about the extremely complex
>> system (or should I say 'platform'?  ;^)  ) that his MLO. And to be able to
>> do so without distracting noise & chatter from new users.
>>
>> As a new user I would like a place where I can have a very different,
>> much more informal sort of conversation. When I first moved to MLO I wanted
>> to be able to spray out at least 1 at least one question every half hour of
>> using the system. But I did not want to irritate the experts during the
>> process. I do NOT expect to have all my questions answered. I want
>> something more like a chat room or Twitter, where you tweet out to the
>> universe and you may or may not get a direct message back, depending on
>> whether or not anyone else is listening (i.e. following *and* reading). I
>> also want to be able to retract or edit my questions if I discover answer
>> to my question or have the misspelled something before anyone got to answer
>> my question.
>>
>> Possible solutions:
>>
>> 1. Another Google Group.
>> It's quite easy to start another Google Group called say
>> "MyLifeOrganised.new.users"
>> On the down side editing posts appears to be impossible (??)
>>
>> 2. Google+
>> Perhaps a more modern solution?
>> (Although I have never used it seriously)
>>
>> 3. A Free Hosted Forum
>> e.g.
>> - https://www.proboards.com/free-forum-features
>> - http://www.lefora.com/
>> - ??
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts/other suggestions?
>>
>> If nobody stops me in the first instance I will probably just start new
>> Google Group as a experiment, but with the clear understanding that we
>> decide to delete the whole group if unsuccessful and/or anyone has a better
>> idea.
>>
>> J
>>
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