Thanks so much Dwight! I really appreciate you taking the time, you're seriously like an MLO guardian angel.
I'm relieved to hear that this is a rare occurrence. Sounds like the
false-positive in my Starred Active Actions View might be an oversight on
my part, although I believe the false-negative on my grocery list is a bug
on MLO's side. Because, that item now DOES show up on my shopping list
view, even though I didn't make any changes to the task properties or to
the view filters. Yet for a full day I frustratingly couldn't get the
task to show up on my phone. Perhaps that problem is isolated to the
mobile app, though.
As you suggested, for the Starred Active Actions View, I've attached a
small profile. Since it only has a few tasks, it may be difficult to
understand what I was trying to do with the filter, given that it lacks the
bigger context of my outline. So please allow me to give a brief
explanation:
- The view is titled "Selected Actions."
- It's meant to show the active actions that I starred in my outline as
well as the tasks I've completed in the last 3 days. By starring them,
I've "selecting" these actions to do ASAP.
- The one wrinkle is that, I don't want to let large lists, like lists
of groceries, exercises, stretches, etc., clutter up my view.
- For those lists, even though I would still star / "select" individual
items (ex. grocery items, exercises, etc.), I only want to see *one* item
in my "Select Actions" view, the parent item.
- So for instance, I would like to star all the things I need to get
at the grocery store, but then on the "Selected Actions" view, I'd only
one
to see one entry, "Groceries."
- Then when I'm at the grocery store, I'd click on a separate,
"Groceries" view to see all of the starred / "selected" groceries.
- The way I implemented this was that, for all such lists, I made them
subtasks of projects with the prefix "-" (ex. "-Groceries", "-Stretches"
etc.).
- Then, in the advanced filter, I filtered out tasks whose project name
started with "-". And I included any project whose caption starts with "-"
and is starred.
- So it appears that in my view, starred inactive actions are displayed.
But I don't understand why?
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On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 7:07:49 AM UTC-7, Dwight Arthur wrote:
>
> Hi, Andrew.
> I'm not familiar with an issue where a task that meets all of the criteria
> for a view is excluded from the view, or where an inactive task will appear
> in an active tasks listing. I have never experienced it, and I do not
> recall anyone else reporting this (except during beta testing, while new
> features are not yet working correctly). So I have no hints for you about
> how to manage or live with this kind of event. I would prefer to consider
> it a problem and look for a way to cure it.
>
> There are two possible explanations that occur to me, other users may come
> up with additional explanations. One possibility is that there is something
> about your tasks that you are missing when you check them, or there is some
> error in how your views are set up. The other is that your profile has
> gotten damaged and needs to be repaired.
>
> Let's start with the first possibility, because that is the kind of thing
> that can often be resolved here in the forum. I would like to see the
> entire task properties for the inactive task that's appearing in your
> Starred Active Actions view. I would also like to see the view properties,
> with as much detail as possible but with particular attention to the
> "general" section. I see that you tried to attach an image to your post but
> it did not come through. Maybe you should try attaching image files rather
> than pasting inline images in the message text. It might be useful to get
> similar information about the properties of the errand tasks that don't
> appear and the view in which they are intended to appear.
>
> It would be great if you could create a new, small profile on MLO/Windows
> with only a few tasks and views and have the problem visible there; you
> could send that whole profile in to the forum and that would make it really
> easy to do the detective work.
>
> If we get to do this research and it shows that nothing is wrong and that
> there is no mistake in your task properties or view properties, then we
> need to look into the chance that your profile is damaged. I could offer
> some advice about creating a new blank profile and starting over, but I
> expect that you would get better advice from [email protected]
> <javascript:>.
> -Dwight
>
> On 4/15/2016 4:07 PM, Andrew Hwang wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm a long-time lurker. Thank you to all the extremely helpful power
> users here (ex. Dwight, Stephane, Christophe, Elizabeth Linsdsay, Lisa S,
> etc.). There is no way I would have figured out this software if not for
> many hours poring over your posts!
>
> I've noticed that quite commonly (at least for me), I will have tasks that
> don't show up in the View they are supposed to, or *do* show up a view
> they're not supposed to. My questions are:
>
> - What's the best way to handle this when this happens? It's happened
> multiple times to me already. Do you just delete the task and re-create?
> - Is there a way to prevent this? The reason MLO's Views were so
> appealing to me was that I could forget about tasks that aren't relevant
> to
> my current situation, and trust that when I wanted to see them, I could,
> just by navigating to the relevant View. But if my Views are incomplete,
> then that defeats the purpose, I still need to maintain a separate,
> *trusted* task list.
>
> It's really frustrating because I just spent over a hundred dollars on the
> desktop client, mobile client, and cloud sync, as well as many hours
> setting up my rules and views, and yet the views / reports seem to be quite
> glitchy.
>
> Thank you!
> -------------------
>
> *Examples*
> For instance, I have a View for all my tasks that are starred and in the
> context "Errands" (and the context "Errands" in turn includes all the
> stores that I go to). That View is grouped by context (with each context
> corresponding to a store). But there is one task that, despite being
> correctly tagged and starred will not show up in the list. I've checked
> the properties and they're all correct, and they all correspond exactly
> with the other tasks that DO show up on the list.
>
> On the flip side, I have a View that only shows Starred Active Actions.
> And yet, there is one task that shows up on this view that is not an
> active action. When I check the task properties, it confirms that is it
> not an Active Action:
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> No other active action shows up on the list BUT this one.
>
>
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