By "same network", he means the network address and netmask should be the
same (the same LAN). We have found you are not on the same LAN. It's a
common business layout to require the WLAN devices be a completely
separated from the company computer network. This is for security purpose,
and the only way your company could make it work is to make an exception
such as a special WiFi for you to connect on the same LAN as your desktop.

Normally it's not a good idea for security, to make this exception.

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:12 AM Luis Fernando Franco Jiménez <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you Andrey,
>
> The problem, I think, is that MLO, even after installing the optional WiFi
> sync component, doesn't even try to connect to the network. I'm checking
> the outgoing internet traffic. When I ask for checking the update, there is
> some traffic. So, I manually add MLO to the local firewall.
>
> In your documentation (which is quite sparse) says that, on first run, MLO
> will try to use the network, that will trigger an ask for permissions to
> the local firewall to go through. This has never happened.
>
> I have installed/uninstalled/installed/uninstalled/... MLO
> with/without/... the WiFi component and no luck
>
> Maybe WiFi is working fine for MLO <= 4, but I can't tell, in my 5
> installation, certainly, isn't.
>
> El jue., 30 de ago. de 2018 a la(s) 03:29, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) (
> [email protected]) escribió:
>
>> Dear Luis Fernando Franco,
>>
>> I am very sorry that you faced such an unpleasant situation with MLO wifi
>> sync not working on your network.
>>
>> WiFi sync was designed as an alternative to robust cloud sync for those
>> who do not want to sync their data outside. Generally your desktop and
>> mobile should be on the same network and nothing should prevent the
>> connection (firewall, antivirus, any custom network settings and policies
>> by admins etc, etc). WiFi sync works just fine for 99.9% of our users for
>> many years. But some users do report connectivity problems which could not
>> be resolved from our side.
>>
>> Unfortunately we usually cannot help with any custom network
>> configuration which prevent MLO on mobile to connect wifi sync service on
>> desktop. Simply because we cannot control these settings. And if there are
>> several routers involved with complex policies it is even more harder.
>>
>> We usually investigate MLO wifi sync logs and if there is no information
>> about the problem we could not help. Simpy because usually no information
>> is sent to MLO since the connection is blocked for security reasons for
>> example by external services.
>>
>> If wifi sync is essential feature and it does not work on your network we
>> could provide the full refund for sure. Just let us know on support email.
>> If you still need any help from our side we will be happy to do all we can.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Andrey Tkachuk, CEO and Founder
>> www.mylifeorganized.net
>>
>> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 8:51:28 AM UTC+3, Luis Fernando Franco
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Andrei
>>>
>>> Well, not so new actually, I used MLO several years ago, that's why I
>>> was in their emailing list. Then I learn about TodoList from AbstractSpoon (
>>> https://abstractspoon.weebly.com/) which is free, and by that time had
>>> much more features than MLO, it even worked on DropBox (which was also
>>> pretty new by then), and the best was that it's free.
>>>
>>> There was a long promised Android app that never arrived, but there were
>>> some "ports" that more or less worked.
>>>
>>> As I said, syncing with my device wasn't a big issue by that time, since
>>> most of the time I was at the same desk. But that has changed recently, and
>>> I really NEED a syncing app, otherwise, I still prefer TDL over MLO,
>>> although MLO's interfase is prettier. Feature to feature I think TDL still
>>> beats MLO by a long shot. If it had a companion Android app, TDL would be
>>> perfect fit for me. Not having it was my only reason to move to MLO.
>>>
>>> I came to this forum because I read this was the primary contact for the
>>> development group, something quite common with small firms, in fact I
>>> thought many of you were part of the company and not customers.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> El mié., 29 de ago. de 2018 a la(s) 02:29, Andrei Bacean (
>>> [email protected]) escribió:
>>>
>>>> Hi again
>>>>
>>>> If WiFi sync is very important for you, I would ask for help from the
>>>> Network Administrator who is in charge of those routers.
>>>>
>>>> Friend, you are relativly a new MLO user. I would suggest you to focus
>>>> on building an MLO profile which will help you to manage your tasks and
>>>> achieve your goals instead of fighting with WiFi sync. You can always use
>>>> MLO cloud for syncing. Set it once and forget about the need of
>>>> configuration when you move to new wifi networks. Other advantages of MLO
>>>> Cloud are automatic cloud sync, task by email etc.
>>>>
>>>> Also, you can contact the MLO support:
>>>> support    [at]      mylifeorganized.net.
>>>> Describe your problem and place the link to this google group
>>>> discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, wish you a to have a nice expirience with MLO (which in my
>>>> honest opinion is extremly powerful) and have a productive day!
>>>>
>>>> Br
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> вторник, 28 августа 2018 г., 22:08:10 UTC+3 пользователь Luis Fernando
>>>> Franco написал:
>>>>>
>>>>> WOW this is beyond my understanding of the Internet and networks in
>>>>> general. I never imagined computers on the same segment were the only ones
>>>>> to communicate between them!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, there are two routers in between, do you think they are blocking
>>>>> MLO's TCP/IP protocol????? Or maybe is using another protocol, or another
>>>>> port, C'mon!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet again, MLO hasn't had even tried to connect to the network
>>>>> (yeah, I also scanned for outgoing network traffic). It has not send even 
>>>>> a
>>>>> small package. I guess it guessed that some evil creature in the routers
>>>>> were going to block it, so it better hide.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean, SERIOUSLY??????
>>>>>
>>>>> So, MLO is architected to work only on extremely huge corporate
>>>>> networks of no more than 255 computers at once, and of course exactly on
>>>>> the same network segment. WOW that's awesome engineering!!!!! That should
>>>>> be disclosed, don't you think????? "If you use a router, this awesome 
>>>>> piece
>>>>> of engineering won't work". I'm pretty sure developers had extremely good
>>>>> reasons on why not to implement a webserver, for example, you know, that
>>>>> obscure protocols nobody uses anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was robbed. That's it. I regret the first time I heard from this
>>>>> scam. I'm the idiot here because of having reasonable expectations on the
>>>>> advertised features.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> El mar., 28 de ago. de 2018 a la(s) 12:58, Jeff Smith (
>>>>> [email protected]) escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Normally it helps to know also the netmask of at least one, but it's
>>>>>> pretty clear that your two addresses are not on the same network. Often 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mask is 255.255.0.0 with a business like this. This means you have one on
>>>>>> network 10.15.0.0 and the other on network 10.19.0.0 so they have to use 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> router. You likely have also a firewall controlling traffic between the
>>>>>> two, but even without a firewall it still is what we call "Intranet" and
>>>>>> MLO's "WiFi sync" just isn't designed for it. You will have the same 
>>>>>> result
>>>>>> as trying to route over Internet. It doesn't jump through routers, and 
>>>>>> ping
>>>>>> only proves that it makes it there through any IP routing going on, to
>>>>>> other networks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the phone got the address for example 10.15.131.45 and netmask
>>>>>> 255.255.255.0 then they would both be on the same network and WiFi sync
>>>>>> would be appropriate. As it has been stated before, they need to be on 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same local network, hence this is called WiFi sync and not something like
>>>>>> IP sync.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 1:13 AM Luis Fernando Franco Jiménez <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Desktop: 10.15.131.32
>>>>>>> Phone: 10.19.77.85
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Desktop can ping the phone, even access a webserver when I configure
>>>>>>> it, and phone can ping and access a webserver without problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe MLO is using another protocol? (That was sarcasm)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> El dom., 26 de ago. de 2018 a la(s) 10:28, imajeff ([email protected])
>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This information might help a lot:
>>>>>>>> What is your IP address of the desktop running MLO which needs to
>>>>>>>> be sync'd
>>>>>>>> What is your IP address of the Android device trying to sync
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 1:25:12 AM UTC-6, Luis Fernando
>>>>>>>> Franco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's see, in this page
>>>>>>>>> https://www.mylifeorganized.net/support/Wi-Fi-synchronization-setup/
>>>>>>>>> it says that when you open MLO it will ask for permissions on the 
>>>>>>>>> firewall.
>>>>>>>>> Well, not in my case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can reach (ping) my PC from my phone, but obviously the MLO
>>>>>>>>> service isn't up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The video tutorial is 99% about the PAID cloud service and 1%
>>>>>>>>> about WiFi. I bought MLO, which isn't cheap, on the premises that I 
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> going to be able to sync via WiFi, I don't feel like paying a 
>>>>>>>>> suscription.
>>>>>>>>>
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