I would agree as long as support for the API by MLO is low in priority. I 
would like the programmers to improve MLO, not interactions with some 
program a subset of users prefer to use.

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 12:16:31 PM UTC-5, Ford Ford wrote:
>
> True. An API or simply increasing the commad line fuctions that MLO 
> already has would allow to create many external tools that would give extra 
> features without slowing MLO down.
>
> Il giorno venerdì 21 settembre 2018 16:14:10 UTC+2, imajeff ha scritto:
>>
>> I agree with zelzvga. It would be neat if MLO had API to allow 
>> integration but it should not have to worry about all these extras that get 
>> suggested from the customizable task manager that it is. Think hope can I 
>> improve with GTD and part of that is not complicate things.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 23:25 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Consider my vote negative if we are talking about an *integrated *time 
>>> tracker.
>>>
>>> A time tracker will add bloat and unseen complications. *It will also 
>>> limit a very unique niche that MLO has*. No one else publishes a PC, 
>>> android, iOS based synchronizing organizer that can be this customized.
>>>
>>> There are multiple time trackers, only one MLO.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 7:23:23 AM UTC-5, JeffH wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Using MLO to plan and execute projects and tasks is fantastic. Having 
>>>> to use a separate app to track time spent is frustrating, involving 
>>>> duplicate data entry, inconsistencies, etc. I believe time tracking 
>>>> could be integrated into MLO cleanly and unobtrusively, so as not to 
>>>> bother those who don't want or need it. I recently looked at over a 
>>>> dozen time-tracking apps, listed below, with brief comments. First, 
>>>> some design ideas. Throughout, when I say project, I mean any non-leaf 
>>>> node of the hierarchy. 
>>>>
>>>> - Maintain a list of task or activity types (eg Administration, 
>>>> Coding, Maintenance, Documentation, etc.) 
>>>>
>>>> - Maintain a list of clients. 
>>>>
>>>> - Maintain a log of activities. Each entry includes a start date/time, 
>>>> end date/time, associated task id. Give the task log a separate tab 
>>>> next to Task Notes and Properties. By default, show the current date. 
>>>> Allow filtering by date; maybe show a calendar or drop-down calendar. 
>>>>
>>>> - Provide a timer to accumulate time to a task. Select the task, right 
>>>> click, and start the timer. Maintain a MRU list of tasks; show on 
>>>> right-clicking the tray icon. 
>>>>
>>>> - Provide a properties pane (or tab?) to capture expenses. Associate 
>>>> each expense with a project. Capture date, amount, vendor, 
>>>> description, paid (bool). 
>>>>
>>>> - Provide reporting options: Summary by date (today, week, month), 
>>>> Detail by date, Summary by project, detail by project, projects by 
>>>> client (detail/summary, Client billing (paid, unpaid, all), Activity 
>>>> per time unit (detail/summary) (eg this week 20 hours coding, 10.5 
>>>> hours admin, etc.), ... 
>>>>
>>>> - Don't need detailed financial accounting of billing. 
>>>>
>>>> Products I reviewed: 
>>>>
>>>> Maybe 
>>>> - Easy Time Tracking - sluggish ui, but pretty functional. Allows 
>>>> customized statuses for projects and tasks; task categories; does 
>>>> invoicing. Tray window is informative but a intrusuve. 
>>>>
>>>> - Timeless Time & Expense - Seems to have everything, but pretty 
>>>> awkward. Version 3 coming soon, free upgrade, Allows expense tracking. 
>>>> UI seems sluggish here too. Tray control but no window. 
>>>>
>>>> Almost 
>>>> - AllNeticWorkingTimeTracker: very clean ui. has tray app for start/ 
>>>> stop. Doesn't have task categories (activities). Reporting not great. 
>>>>
>>>> - TimePanic - interesting. activity centric. Allows projects + 
>>>> subprojects; no expense support; 
>>>>
>>>> Definitely not 
>>>> - FruitFul 
>>>>
>>>> - Office Time - has projects and categories, but no tasks. Multiple 
>>>> windows confusing. 
>>>>
>>>> - Responsive Time Logger - pretty rich feature set. Expensive. Tray 
>>>> app doesn't allow task switching (per screen shot). 
>>>>
>>>> - Complete Time Tracking - kind of cool, compact ui; no activities; 
>>>>
>>>> - Time Shadow 
>>>>
>>>> - Time Tracker 
>>>>
>>>> - ya Timer - http://www.nbdtech.com/yaTimer/Help/ - kind of cool, no 
>>>> task notes 
>>>>
>>>> - WHID - sourceforge 
>>>>
>>>> - TimeSheets MTS - pretty heavy duty - requires manually entered 
>>>> project and task ids - 
>>>>
>>>> - Fanurio - http://www.fanuriotimetracking.com/ - Java based. no tasks 
>>>>
>>>> That just scratches the surface. There are TONS of tools out there, 
>>>> none with an MLO's highly tuned look and feel, most very awkward, 
>>>> heavy, sluggish. AllNetic comes closest, but lacks functionality. I 
>>>> would easily fork over more $ for an integrated MLO implementation. 
>>>>
>>>> Anybody else?
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