I've already seen how slowly they are trying to improve it. 10 years of
observation. MLO5 is a good example of how they leave so many problems
that slow me down but just add new problems. My software should not
consume all of my time, I need to work on actually getting things done I
needed to do in the first place.

I think it's because the platform never gets thought out and rewritten.
You can't keep making it better if you never look at the big picture of
what's wrong in the base code. What is taking too much time to manage.
If there were an underlying API then other minds could start solving
problems that shouldn't take up the companies resources and mine because
I don't need everything others need.

On 9/30/2018 07:12, [email protected] wrote:
>
> I would agree as long as support for the API by MLO is low in
> priority. I would like the programmers to improve MLO, not
> interactions with some program a subset of users prefer to use.
>
> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 12:16:31 PM UTC-5, Ford Ford wrote:
>
>     True. An API or simply increasing the commad line fuctions that
>     MLO already has would allow to create many external tools that
>     would give extra features without slowing MLO down.
>
>     Il giorno venerdì 21 settembre 2018 16:14:10 UTC+2, imajeff ha
>     scritto:
>
>         I agree with zelzvga. It would be neat if MLO had API to allow
>         integration but it should not have to worry about all these
>         extras that get suggested from the customizable task manager
>         that it is. Think hope can I improve with GTD and part of that
>         is not complicate things.
>
>         On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 23:25 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>             Consider my vote negative if we are talking about an
>             /integrated /time tracker.
>
>             A time tracker will add bloat and unseen complications.
>             *It will also limit a very unique niche that MLO has*. No
>             one else publishes a PC, android, iOS based synchronizing
>             organizer that can be this customized.
>
>             There are multiple time trackers, only one MLO.
>
>             On Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 7:23:23 AM UTC-5, JeffH wrote:
>
>                 Using MLO to plan and execute projects and tasks is
>                 fantastic. Having
>                 to use a separate app to track time spent is
>                 frustrating, involving
>                 duplicate data entry, inconsistencies, etc. I believe
>                 time tracking
>                 could be integrated into MLO cleanly and
>                 unobtrusively, so as not to
>                 bother those who don't want or need it. I recently
>                 looked at over a
>                 dozen time-tracking apps, listed below, with brief
>                 comments. First,
>                 some design ideas. Throughout, when I say project, I
>                 mean any non-leaf
>                 node of the hierarchy.
>
>                 - Maintain a list of task or activity types (eg
>                 Administration,
>                 Coding, Maintenance, Documentation, etc.)
>
>                 - Maintain a list of clients.
>
>                 - Maintain a log of activities. Each entry includes a
>                 start date/time,
>                 end date/time, associated task id. Give the task log a
>                 separate tab
>                 next to Task Notes and Properties. By default, show
>                 the current date.
>                 Allow filtering by date; maybe show a calendar or
>                 drop-down calendar.
>
>                 - Provide a timer to accumulate time to a task. Select
>                 the task, right
>                 click, and start the timer. Maintain a MRU list of
>                 tasks; show on
>                 right-clicking the tray icon.
>
>                 - Provide a properties pane (or tab?) to capture
>                 expenses. Associate
>                 each expense with a project. Capture date, amount,
>                 vendor,
>                 description, paid (bool).
>
>                 - Provide reporting options: Summary by date (today,
>                 week, month),
>                 Detail by date, Summary by project, detail by project,
>                 projects by
>                 client (detail/summary, Client billing (paid, unpaid,
>                 all), Activity
>                 per time unit (detail/summary) (eg this week 20 hours
>                 coding, 10.5
>                 hours admin, etc.), ...
>
>                 - Don't need detailed financial accounting of billing.
>
>                 Products I reviewed:
>
>                 Maybe
>                 - Easy Time Tracking - sluggish ui, but pretty
>                 functional. Allows
>                 customized statuses for projects and tasks; task
>                 categories; does
>                 invoicing. Tray window is informative but a intrusuve.
>
>                 - Timeless Time & Expense - Seems to have everything,
>                 but pretty
>                 awkward. Version 3 coming soon, free upgrade, Allows
>                 expense tracking.
>                 UI seems sluggish here too. Tray control but no window.
>
>                 Almost
>                 - AllNeticWorkingTimeTracker: very clean ui. has tray
>                 app for start/
>                 stop. Doesn't have task categories (activities).
>                 Reporting not great.
>
>                 - TimePanic - interesting. activity centric. Allows
>                 projects +
>                 subprojects; no expense support;
>
>                 Definitely not
>                 - FruitFul
>
>                 - Office Time - has projects and categories, but no
>                 tasks. Multiple
>                 windows confusing.
>
>                 - Responsive Time Logger - pretty rich feature set.
>                 Expensive. Tray
>                 app doesn't allow task switching (per screen shot).
>
>                 - Complete Time Tracking - kind of cool, compact ui;
>                 no activities;
>
>                 - Time Shadow
>
>                 - Time Tracker
>
>                 - ya Timer - http://www.nbdtech.com/yaTimer/Help/
>                 <http://www.nbdtech.com/yaTimer/Help/> - kind of cool, no
>                 task notes
>
>                 - WHID - sourceforge
>
>                 - TimeSheets MTS - pretty heavy duty - requires
>                 manually entered
>                 project and task ids -
>
>                 - Fanurio - http://www.fanuriotimetracking.com/
>                 <http://www.fanuriotimetracking.com/> - Java based. no
>                 tasks
>
>                 That just scratches the surface. There are TONS of
>                 tools out there,
>                 none with an MLO's highly tuned look and feel, most
>                 very awkward,
>                 heavy, sluggish. AllNetic comes closest, but lacks
>                 functionality. I
>                 would easily fork over more $ for an integrated MLO
>                 implementation.
>
>                 Anybody else?
>
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