The Cortex numbering and the ARM version don't correspond.  It is super 
confusing.  There are ARMv<whatever> architecture revisions, ARM<number> 
classic ARM CPUs which have a certain architecture that they use, and then 
the Cortex-A<number> and Cortex-R<number>.... And the numbers all mean 
different things.  For example the Raspberry Pi has an ARM1176JZ-F which 
uses the ARMv6 architecture.  The ARM9 CPUs use the ARMv4 or ARMv5 
architecture depending on which one you look at.  The Coretex-As are ARMv7 
or ARMv8 architecture depending on which CPU.

So damn confusing I wonder how anyone ever builds anything with an ARM.

When the Raspberry Pi came out they had to make an entire new Debian 
distribution from ARMv6 hardware floating point because Debian had moved on 
to only supporting ARMv7, so I would be looking for an ARMv7 architecture 
CPU for our uses here.

Andrew B


On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:37:52 AM UTC-7, monahanz wrote:
>
> Greg, thank you for the tips.  Your experience is most helpful.   While I 
> will keep looking I would really value any further suggestions you may 
> gather over the weekend. 
> Sound like the ARM9 is the way for us to go.   The two things that are 
> putting me off on the Toradex units,  first they are overseas (but 
> apparently have a distribution center in Seattle) possibly getting units 
> could be difficult, also looking at the specks of the support board -- it 
> appears quite complex.    One basic question,  how different are the 
> various differently named ARM9's  for example they say there's is a "NVIDIA 
> Tegra 3 quad-core Cortex-A9".    Is that one more complex to program than 
> others or are they all the same, 
>
> In the ideal world I would like a mini-board with the following 
> parameters:- 
>
> Easy connector attachment to an S100  board which acts as a support board 
> for the 'chip' 
> Clear documentation of I/O lines 
> At least 30 or so GPIO lines we could use to control the S100 bus when the 
> ARM CPU is in master mode. 
> A windows based IDE interface to program the CPU and download software. 
> The capability of running a Linux system on the "chip". 
> The unit is available in single unit quantities. 
>   
> I never thought of the Auto industry, good idea, thanks 
> Please see if you can slice time to take a look see at candidates this 
> weekend. 
> Thanks 
>
>
> John 
>
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> Subject: RE: [N8VEM-S100:5041] ARM CPU on the S100Bus-II 
>
> If an ARM processor is desired, then you start with ARM's roadmap. 
> For example, here is the ARM7 web page. 
> Two notable observations: 
> First, main headline on page is about migration, and second is advice to 
> not use for new designs. 
> http://www.arm.com/products/processors/classic/arm7/index.php 
>
> So, we scratch ARM7, since N8VEM users would desire a longer processor 
> life (supported Linux version, etc.) and not immediate extinction. 
>
> That leaves the ARM9 and the ARM11. 
>
> The ARM11 is popular with mobile phones, a range of SoCs and various OEM 
> products. 
> The ARM9 has been most successful, so far, and has replaced the ARM7 for 
> entry designs. 
>
> The "who" takes a bit longer to sort out, and involves more than hardware 
> mfg. 
>
> You may laugh, but one "bell-weather" that I routinely check is the 
> automotive industry, especially last 20 years. 
> The reason is longevity of support for successful implementations. 
>
> Freescale is the old Motorola Texas/Arizona processor/IC/transistor 
> division, and the Motorola auto fabrication/car module engineering & 
> assembly was bought by another company. 
>
> Freescale has an ARM9 series, but I have not looked at it.   
> I do note that Ubuntu (Linux) dropped support at 10.10 for Freescale i.MX 
> (ARM9). 
> That is the wildcard ... OS support and the software development community 
> support (earlier comments along same line). 
>
> Labor Day weekend may permit more time for research. 
>
> greg 
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